Can't fucking realise how a 8 GB RAM Dell laptop is considered as a programmer's laptop over a MacBook Pro in my office!!!! 😑
The stupid Windows laptop keeps getting updates, as if anyone cares 😑

Can't really understand why RAM has anything to do with that but ok?

My colleagues MBP Pro has 8GB of ram too, so it's not a work laptop? Rarely exceeds 6GB of usage at all :)

Also, my osX attempts to do updates every night and therefore restarts my pc without my will and still fails.

To run my project locally, I have to turn on 10 servers! Keeping the 10 servers on, as well as Skype and Outlook on! It's like my laptop mocking me: Good luck opening Chrome and typing localhost:3000 😭

The other day, I had turned on 10 servers and started clearing my Trash and gave an npm install in another git bash window, my laptop froze their with a blue screeen for half an hour!!!! 🤦🏼‍♂️

Well, that means you personally require a better hardware, not everyone else. If everyone is working on the same project and nobody sees a problem - then something would be fishy.

All in all, it seriously depends on many things... I've personally even developed an app on rpi3 with no issues whatsoever, it was just a bit slower :)

Also on a Windows laptop myself, having no issues so far. My coworker's MacBook spent over an hour stuck in update hell yesterday.

@EmberQuill Agreed way more than I would like :) People were saying to me that osX does't have annoying updates/issues but hell... it has the same level of annoyance

The obligatory and annoying Linux for the win comment hasn't been done yet?

Sounds like your architecture is shit

Can’t fucking realise how a MacBook would be considered as a programmer’s laptop.

If you ran those 10 servers as containers in docker you wouldn’t have a problem

@irene mainframes are where it’s at

@irene my laptop has 32G Ram. Perfect for cross development 😁

@620hun couldn't agree more. I use the mbp 2016 top model at work (yes, the one with that stupid touchbar) and I hate that device. Takes ages to boot, crashes on every second system update and the battery life is terrible if you want to do more than typing a word document with screen brightness on 10%.

Most of my colleagues feel the same about that device. It's an overpriced consumer laptop that does not deserve the "Pro" in it's name.

Meh.. OK that's my duty so: use linux, that's what is called a programming tool.
Done, and of course I don't give more arguments and will ignore question.

@irene exactly, it depends but saying that 16gb is minimum - pretty naive :)

Also just for record i have a dell inspiron with i5-4somethingU, 8gigs of ram as a main laptop and never had any issues with work. The trick is not having a job where you use bloated crap.

(Also i use arch there i said it)

@potata I have really no Idea what OSX you have... I own Macs since 6 years and never had to update more often than once a week. Most of the time even less.

10 freaking VMs? Why in the world would you run that entirely on a desktop? Build a test/dev environment in the company's server environment. Anything else is insane.

So many people complaining slow or low ram (I’m one of them most of the times)

When you have no chance to change the hardware, you change your tools

I have had to do dev on an old 512 mb netbook when my main device was being repaired and I went from using full blown IDE and tools to vim/ag

Also had to cut the number of time I compiled and ran the program, as that itself was also pretty slow.

@Snob Not the mojave, one version before it (don't really care about it tho :D )

Anyway, that seriously depends, my current experience with mac is pretty shitty in all the ways and that deserves a different story :)

@potata please let's hear it in an individual rant! 👍

As @bahua said.
The whole environment seems to be pretty strange if you need a mainframe-like laptop just to compile or test stuff.

@EmberQuill @potata its U$ 10 each summoning.

I could replace my work laptop with a Raspberry Pi at this point, if it weren't for the stupid VPN software we use that doesn't support Linux. I do most of my work in the cloud already, and if I spun up a Cloud9 instance in our AWS environment then I probably wouldn't even need locally-installed software anymore.

m8
My gaming laptop had 8GB of ram and it was "decent" for games and perfect for my tank called VS 2018
Modern AAA titles require 16GB to function correctly. What do you use for ide?!?!