lmfao... imagine if a pizza restaurant webform didn't have (reasonable) limits on the number of pizzas you can order... and you put in 120 pizzas (by mistake). LMAO.

But why stop there?

Try ordering -1 pizza

@jestdotty Thought like a truly logical person. Well done, jestdotty.

No, at the payment the person will look and then lightbulb, or they might either be too distracted and confirm anyway.

I think they would manage but then they would get extremely busy and I hope they might call the customer. lol. Or is it the customer's responsibility? Hm hm... might be in the Terms.

Interesting business logic, jestdotty.

@Lensflare Can't. They use + and - buttons. I could circumvent that but I don't want to go that far. lmao

... from the business perspective, you would actually _want_ for the customers to be able to accidentally order 120 pizzas. whether they intended to or not. Because either case you get business, and they have to pay because you had expenses fulfilling that business

(but this is all assuming you can even make 120 pizzas all in one go, which you probably can't. you'll mess up the logistics of the business giving them suddenly outlandish volume)

either case they'll have to wait for 120 pizzas though... if you have 100 customers all accidentally ordering 30% more pizzas than they intend, on a regular basis, that's just profit for you. as long as you can avoid the logistical nightmare (aka the drop in quality of service) of having to meet peak DDoS-like demand

@jestdotty Yes, it is not the happy flow.

A couple of arguments could follow:

1. When ordering, the customer agreed to the terms and agreed they were aware of the purchase they were making and making every reasonable attempt to guarantee that the order they place is correct. The customer may be at fault. Depending on clauses, the company may also have to guarantee in their QoS programming to conform to reasonable UX so as to prevent accidents. Disclaimer: I'm not a legal expert. lol

2. Law when analyzing fault has to look at acts of egregious (direct) nature. A classic example is: "Who is at fault in the following scenario: The painter enters the customer's house, trips over the patio, falls down the stairs, accidentally rips is lighter into

@jestdotty a bath of oil that laid in some buckets to neutralize the smell of new paint, causing confusion to the other painter right behind them that tripped with them, broke their leg, and so on". A refund? I don't think so. They would probably be in breach of contract, just like in insurance, you are not covered for explicit and purposeful acts of wrongdoing, or sloppy ones.

3. In that case they would need to pull the video feed and see if any customer in the store would be prying the cheese package open, or they would need to trace the whole process back.. and then get authorization from the proper parties to see who did it... and yeah. lol

@jestdotty The business would be an unethical one and in that case I don't think they would be granted a license to do business.. hm.

Profit.. well.. hm. Not good, you know? In the theory of Sales: if you mess up for one customer, 9 others will spread the bad word and your business is doomed.

As for the peak, well, we have load-balancing and all the modern cloud cluster stuff these days, no? If they can afford it.

Would you like a pizza while you write this? lol

@jestdotty Psh, jestdotty. I'm not like that. I always state things from myself and if I quote, then I mention the source. In this case the example was from my Law classes back in college, which in turn was from something else. I'm not a copy-paster. lol

That question depends on the business terms. It does not seem unreasonable to allow one client to order that, but I think in that case warnings and systems should be in place (I think it's part of the usability heuristics) to direct the client to the proper form (visibility of system status). Negligence can be different in different cases.

@jestdotty Sadly law (and especially insurance) is weighed out through various months and years and is not black and white, but you can add those arguments, depending on the clauses and whichever laws apply. Fault is a difficult one as intent has to be taken into account too.

Is it the modus operandi? I find it hard to believe. Deception is a touchy subject legally.

Yes, advertising is very messed up - the subconscious part in particular. Thankfully some of us don't fall for that.

You're welcome, jestdotty. lol. Yes. Perhaps something else that would not mess.

@jestdotty Is that you, legally blonde? jk. Yes, I see the physical point. In that case it is hard to balance. Perhaps some parallelism and clustering could be done, depending on the restaurant, though not entirely realistic.

Yes, indeed, the ordering.

Lmao oven factory. Yes, the internet tubes. They're tubing. I know the analogy. lol

How many ovens do they have? Hm.. yes.. I don't know. 2-12 seems reasonable. 6 ft distance.. mhm. Haha, I like that you are doing the calculation.

30 rounds! Damn. Yeah.. I'm almost certain their pizza-making process is not that streamlined. Most places can get (semi) messy.

So they waste a whole day on one client, and does that warrant the fixed and variable costs?

Fixed costs:

(now I need google lol)

Okay so electricity for instance. A fixed rental price. Not bad. Then of course it can depend based on if the ovens go above a treshold and if there are tresholds.

Let's say a pizza costs $15

@jestdotty $15 * 120 = $1800. Hm, not bad.

A.I. says average: $80-$165/day for rent + $20-$150 for electricity or gas

Hm, late depends on the agreements.

You, you are procastinating! Bad jestdotty! lol. I absolutely love this what you're doing, though. lol

Cpt. Rantii falling in love.

'Silicon Valley' already did it. https://youtu.be/LYu-d6y5HRo?t=116 .

@jestdotty > 'from the business perspective, you would actually _want_ for the customers to be able to accidentally order 120 pizzas.'.

...wow... takes me back to the early days of IAPs, w/ kids incurring insane bills.

@jestdotty Cheez. It wasn't mush, just excited writing. lol

A.I. slop sucksy.

Internet has gotten very noisy for sure.

@jestdotty It's good to let out your thoughts.

Writing publicly may indeed need to take on another format.

I would expect people to read well-written blogs. I don't know of this substack thing but lol.

It’s a classic example of why data validation on both the frontend and backend is so fundamental in web development. Sometimes, what seems like a minor detail in a webform can lead to quite absurd situations or even system errors if logical constraints aren't established.