Linux: the weather applet in the panel displays the weather. When I open it, it displays more weather details.

Windows: the weather applet in the task bar displays the weather. When I open it, it displays random news and stock prices.

Microsoft can't even do a fucking weather applet right. Everything has to be an incoherent mess.

There's a weather app in the taskbar?

I feel like I'm missing a major update 😔

@C0D4 Yes, that was added with the last update although the company PCs are on LTSC.

While I installed the "Weather" applet in Cinnamon because I like it, I immediatey switched off Microsoft's shit because it's just as useless as you'd expect from Microsoft.

@C0D4 yeah but you're not missing out

@Fast-Nop 21H1 is an optional upgrade for me, so I'll wait.

Doesn't look like it actually contains anything of use anyway. Smile and unlock improvements to hello 🤷‍♂️wtf do I need that for.

Company laptop is the same with LtSC, it's back at 2004 😅

@C0D4 Strangely, we're on 1909, and I still got that crap. It also shows on micro level what's wrong with MS.

Linux: hey, let's make a weather applet. Yeah great, what should be in the expanded view? Oh, stuff like humidity, pressure, wind direction and speed, subjective temperature, sunrise and sunset time, and a forecast that can be expanded and configured for further details.

Windows: some corporate flacks sit together. Everyone knows that there is precious little space in the expanded view of the new shit. What to put in? Everyone tries to be "creative" and then fights tooth and nail to get his shit in in order to leave a mark on the product, which would improve one's career odds.

The contest revolves around making so "remarkable" suggestions that they're on the verge of being rejected, but not quite. The one who gets closest to that frontier wins.

Did you plan to post this exactly on the hour?

@arcsector No, that was by chance. ^^

You:
Alexa, how is the weather?

Alexa:
Musk said they don't support crypto, Bitcoin continues to fall, Stackoverflow was bought, BNTX is falling, TRIP is falling, RBLX is falling

You:
So It's raining with a chance of loosing money, got it.

Outside:
35° C Sunny

@molaram Task bar, right click, news, switch off. You can't click right on the applet and expect the applet configuration like it works under Linux - that would be too logical.

I would say though because of its monopoly on hardware manufacturers actually playing along, things like smart information that is custom show up better in windows applications the hw manufacturers actually write for windows.

smartctl is reporting my ssd out of range by 63 degrees celsius lol

my whole system isnt even reaching that. so there is that.

but yeah I like personally when you do a search for a local app and get news.. its a wonderful... feature.

@MadMadMadMrMim My sensors applet in Cinnamon shows the SSD temperature correctly. Then again, it's a proper Samsung SSD because I don't buy trash in the first place.

@Fast-Nop lol the ssd i'm using isnt trash but gsmartcontrol reports two different temperatures in two different places..

One under the attributes range and one under the 'statistics' tab.

same as last time these people stole everything.

also misreports battery charge time :P

and I use fedora :P

Microsoft: Hey, let's make "News and interests" widget that is highly configurable. Of course space in the taskbar is limited so what could we show? The weather is short and consistent information relevant to most. And make it _really_ simple to shorten it to an icon or turned off completely.

Linux, used to things that does only one thing and gold-plate the shit out of that one thing: Your weather applet sucks, it shows more than weather!

@Flygger Now apply the idea of "cram unrelated shit into wherever we have some space left" to the whole system, and you can see where that goes.

@Fast-Nop an aggregation of news, weather, finance, and sports is hardly cramming unrelated shit together, so I'm not sure what you're going for except hating things based on developer rather than intended use and audience...

@Flygger Oh you mean a "news portal". Yeah that's what this kind of crap was called 20 years ago. AOL and Yahoo come to mind. Nobody wants that crap, that's why these "news portals" failed.

Isnt it also there to kinda drive more traffic into that bing/msn side of Microsoft? Therefore using the entire thing to earn more ad revenue?!

@JFK422 do that many people actual click on the web results in weather or the sidebar ? I don’t

@Fast-Nop ...or like the news on TV or radio, or the concept of newspapers, etc... It's neither new or random, and seeing as the print and broadcast variants are still pretty much everywhere and OS that caters to the same segments...

Different people have different needs in news and I just turned turned the widget off almost as a reflex, as my needs are very minimal and already covered, but I'm not the average, default user...

@JFK422 Yeah MS is desperately promoting their useless crap. That's also why they fire up Bing when you want to search something on your computer. Without such clickbait, Bing wouldn't get any hits at all.

Changing CPU.

Windows : Oh new CPU ? Sweet ! No work / install needed

Linux : WTF ! kernel panic, no boot : reinstall everything

But sure wather widget is the most important in a system

@NoToJavaScript Bullshit. If you install a generic kernel, it is called like that for a reason. I pulled over a disk image from my desktop to my laptop, i.e. pretty different hardware including the CPU, and no issues.

If of course you compile a custom kernel to get the last ridiculous bit of performance, then you should know what you're doing.

@NoToJavaScript thats kind of bs. major architecture changes might cause that.. sometimes.

@Fast-Nop right. customized kernels might note if a required piece of hardware is completely goddamn different.

might also be missing modules for specific devices.

I'll do a test for you.

I have a machibe with Core i5 and no discret GPU. Running ubuntu server (No custom kernel or anything).

I have an old 980 ti video card laying around.

I give it 75% chances of not booting if I plug that card. Results this weekend.

And it can be pushed even better :

I also have a MotherBoard aith core i7 I'm not using. I'm pretty sure if I try to boot on it it will fail (The main reason I didn't upgrade I5 to i7 tbh in this machine)

@NoToJavaScript That depends on whether Nvidia drivers have been bundled in the distro. Since Nvidia doesn't open source their drivers, they cannot be just in the kernel like AMD or Intel graphics drivers - hence, it's not a kernel problem to begin with. Also, that's a GPU issue (actually an Nvidia issue), not CPU.

And no, the Linux kernel doesn't have a problem with i7 CPUs unless your mobo has a HW problem. Letting Memtest86 run through is the very first thing you should do when you swap hardware. Not only with Linux, also with Windows.

Or are you talking about the newest Intel CPUs with integrated graphics? Ubuntu has 5.10-OEM for that because Intel forgot to enable it in 5.11/5.12 without force-enable kernel parameter.

@Fast-Nop ya nvidia isnt supporting the old old drivers anymore but I think the OS Comm supports them now.

Most of the modules are encrypted compressed sh scripts that generate kernel modules for loading into the running kernel.

@Fast-Nop

See ? Just your first line.

Windows doesn’t bundle shit 9Actually yes it does, but more of “best known vendors”, like new intel discret GPU will pretty much work in windows 7 out of box). It assumes every video card supports basic VESA protocols I played with already in 1995. (yeah I was pretty much full VESA, protected mode, no windows, assembler FTW. It’s fun to program video cards on lowest level).

For cpu you misunderstood.I know linux doesn’t have a problem with most of CPUs.
I’m talking about pulling hard drive from existing machine, put it on the mobo with I7 and expect it to boot with no other configuration on my end. Windows before Windows 7 would’ve failed for reference. (learnt that the hard way)

@NoToJavaScript Yes, and exactly that hard drive swapping operation (done via disk imaging) worked, see above.

Also, Linux does work with Nvidia cards if the objective is only to have any display at all - how else would you think that the graphic installer would come up from the ISO in the first place? I mean, before you can even click "download some proprietary Nvidia crap on my machine"?

Sure, you don't have acceleration in the installer, so that's not really an option for actual usage, but if the objective is "get a display", that works.

@Fast-Nop
But once you installed this « proprietary crap for any device on the machine”, it will load that crap at every boot. AND sometimes it will fail if the “crap” changed inside the machine.

Also, no disk imaging ! real hard drive ! (Should boot, I spent fucking 4 hours to put hard drives GUID every where instead of /dev/sd<whatever>. The guid will not change plugiong it into another system)

Don’t get me wrong, I find tinkering and admistrating home multimedia server on Linux fun. There is a lot of custom scripts etc running on it. It does EXACTLY what I want it to do and only asks me to update it 1-2 times a month. But I would not want to do it for living. A simple typo can destroy whole system.

@Fast-Nop
(Sorry needed to split in 2 comments)

(No, I never erased GPT by error, nop never happened, nop )
And it’s stable. As long as you don’t change hardware, the system will be stable. But also it prevents me from updating it. I don’t really need to. Even 4K hdr playback is perfect (no transcoding and i5 is too slow anyway to transcode 4k).

My point is : Windows is more resilient to hardware changes, software changes etc. But you cannot build a “stable in time” windows machine. With linux you can, but it’s “freezed in time”.
At least in my small personal experience.

@NoToJavaScript I'd guess if all else fails, you could still apply some kernel parameter and blacklist the Nvidia driver upon HW change. Sure, that's not auto-reconfiguration, but that's the consequence from Nvidia refusing to get their drivers into the regular kernel. Once you installed such a driver manually, of course the kernel tries to load it, that's the point of installing a driver manually.

My conclusion from that mess is not to spend any money on Nvidia. AMD has caught up pretty well, and if gaming isn't a concern, you don't even need a graphics card anymore.

Also, the disk imaging (Clonezilla) is exactly like swapping the hard drive. It's a bit identical copy for the used sectors, after all, and the drive model was the same in both computers.

Microsoft may have some questionable product mangers