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Seriously, fuck Discord's new community guidelines! They now think they even own you outside of ther shady app:

"We may consider relevant off-platform behavior when assessing for violations of specific Community Guidelines."

Addressing harmful off-plattform behavior:
https://discord.com/blog/...

"When we talk about off-platform behaviors, we’re referring to any behaviors taking place outside of Discord, either in other digital spaces or in a physical community. If we become aware of specific off-platform, high-harm behaviors with credible evidence committed by a person with a Discord account, we will take the off-platform harmful behavior into consideration when assessing whether that account has violated a specific Community Guideline."

"We are applying this off-platform behavior consideration only if we become aware of highest-harm threats, including using Discord for organizing, promoting, or supporting violent extremism; making threats of violence; and sexualizing children in any way."
Yeah, suure...

Why does every fucking internet company think that they own their users?

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    Because they do bro.

    Don't you know, you're not a user you're a liability.

    There's wokeness, and then there's toxic wokeness.

    This is just purely toxic and damages the trust in the product.

    We laughed when Tumblr closed up shop but all those weebs and pussies had to go somewhere. It was almost like a cancerous cyst popping and now internet society has Tumblr cancer everywhere.
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    > promoting violent extremism

    Do FPS games promote violent extremism? Where did society land on that again?

    > sexualizing children in any way

    Heh OK so half of all American culture is banned, from pageants to the Disney channel.

    Obviously that's hyperbole, but what I mean: It's difficult to write laws.

    Obviously, Discord should not be used by abusers to share photos of victims.

    But that's one extreme end.

    Is a young adult novel in which the teenage protagonist describes their first sexual experience taboo? What about the book "Lolita", which sexualizes an underage girl, but is nevertheless considered a literary classic? What about The Simpsons Movie, which showed Bart's genitals?

    There's gray area.

    Not just for child abuse, but also for "promoting violence", for about any crime one could think of.

    That's why there are legal systems, to deal with these complexities.

    Companies trying to write laws will discover that you can't just conjure up a justice system.
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    @bittersweet Yeah, companies should not be allowed to write pseudo laws.
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    @PonySlaystation

    I think it's enough of a guideline to say:

    "The law of jurisdiction x applies to this platform, moderators have the freedom to intervene proactively, and we have an objection procedure in case you feel actions taken were not justified"

    Of course you can't always wait for a judge to order removal of content as a platform.

    But you can just "inherit" a justice system as a guideline, and offer arbitration in difficult cases.

    No need to redefine laws from scratch.
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    I once emailed discord about a friend of mine that is a minor being taken advantage by a literal pedophile over discord. Video, playing with himself and coercing her to do the same... Not joking, discord told me that they are sorry, but they can't do anything about it, despite me having the persons username and dates and everything. They didn't even fucking try

    But if some idiot on twitter reports a server im on to discord then It's immediatelly a server takedown and ban for every user on it. Took me almost a week to get my Account back.

    So really, I like discord because as a chat platform It's great and full of features... But fuck them and their blind knee bending to the toxic cancel culture. They are all monsters that pretend to care just like every other corporation out there putting rainbows into their logos to fool everyone into thinking they care. They don't, It's toxic, It's disgusting, yuck. Fuck them
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    @UnicornPoo

    > Depends on how it’s used

    Most likely, rather arbitrarily, and informed by profit rather than equal treatment.

    Twitch for example is heavily policed... But also very randomly.

    Of course, in the end, a platform CAN technically do whatever they want, they can enforce a policy that using the word "ointment" is bannable.

    But ethically speaking, I think a platform needs to treat users equally, clearly tell their users why they have been sanctioned and for how long, and provide a clear arbitration route.

    Those 3 points is where all major platforms are failing in my opinion.
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    @UnicornPoo

    Oh and as @Hazarth mentioned, in case of serious transgressions, also help victims find their way towards law enforcement.

    For example on the other end of the spectrum, on Twitter you often see people who clearly violate laws (death threats, defamation, doxxing, etc), but you know the "report" button won't do all that much.
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    Ah, sounds like we need actual, governmental regulations on the internet. Who could have predicted that.
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    @UnicornPoo The problem is that uncensored platforms become extreme because that's the only place where such people can communicate.
    Even if we are censoring every platform, we will never get rid of such people. I find it waymore important to keep these people in the public and openly confront their extreme views.
    Censorship only leads to such people going into the shadows where they get dangerous.
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    Welcome to the social credit system.
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    @Demolishun Every country has a social credit system.

    If you keep being a dick, you will eventually lose your family and job. Or become a politician, I guess.
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