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Manager: How come I go on vacation for 2 weeks and you are able to start, complete, and ship an entire sprint in that time where as when I'm around, the same amount of work takes months? I even got COMPLIMENTS from *the client* about how smoothly things went while I was gone...THIS IS COMPLETELY EMBARRASSING AND UNACCEPTABLE!

Dev: Well. I cancelled all of the status meetings, created tickets with clear expectations, didn't change those expectations, didn't add every idea that popped into the client's head during those two weeks to the current sprint, didn't pull anyone off their tickets to teach me to code, cut the budget for making degrading comments to zero, and incentivised everyone to work by allowing a half days on fridays to work on personal projects if we stayed on schedule.

Manager: THAT'S NOT YOUR JOB! I'M THE MANAGER AND ALL. OF. THOSE. THINGS. ARE. MY JOB! NOT YOURS!

Dev: ...I know.

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    Is this a real story OP?
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    @MammaNeedHummus It was a fun week while it lasted, team really came together to stick it to him. Made me *almost* even consider a future in leadership.

    ...๐Ÿคฎ
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    Man, sometimes I also have that feeling that I would be more efficient if I‘d be doing someone else‘s job ๐Ÿ˜…

    But in your case it‘s obviously not just a feeling ๐Ÿ˜„
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    @MammaNeedHummus I guess I haven't posted in awhile. This guy used to give me postable content weekly, you must have joined DevRant after he calmed down for a bit. Check my post history. He's.... where all my karma came from ๐Ÿ˜ฌ.
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    @boombodies ooooooh some goodies there thxs
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    You have turned lemons into lemonade. Congrats!

    Now track the business metrics (the language of managers) and show how much money you saved with your management decisions. Then present this to upper management.
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    @boombodies Leadership is great. Management is not… you led. ๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿผ
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    "You are right, this is completely embarrassing and unacceptable."
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    So we'll have people here that will say "Things that didn't happen for 100", but trust me, for a short time this works very well. Clients will have no manager to speak to and can't come up with new bullshit ideas. The manager above the manager will know he's on holidays so they will not drop their bullshit as well. However, if this manager was on holidays for like ... three weeks or more, then the next best senior dev would be the target of all management related crap.

    Morale of story: Every time you think your manager is shit, remind yourself that management above is at least as crappy or even worse ;)
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    @Nanos I love code too much. I've looked into management a bit and read a couple books on it, but I would never feel comfortable interviewing for managerial roles and the decision to move away from code would hurt my ability to stay on top of it. If I knew someone was being underpaid for their skills I wouldn't see that as a "win", if I successfully scapegoated another department for something that was my fault I wouldn't feel proud of that, and if I did some thing illegal in order to prop up my KPIs I would have trouble sleeping at night. I'm just not cut out for the role. I'd rather accumulate as much respect and reputation as a competent and trustworthy bottom runger than try to compete in the narcisisstic, power hungry, overvalued, and exploitative world of management.
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    @MammaNeedHummus most ofthe times, it is crafted to make op look better while making others look bad
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    This is honestly why more developer-led agencies need to happen. I don’t blame most managers, but most of them are just ignorant as to the best ways to lead a team.
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    Gotta love the tags
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    @Nanos

    Are they turning this guidance into strategies?
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    @CodingTripledad Wise comment. Management duties comes and goes in waves and many teams can benefit from being without one a full time manager for some weeks per year but not forever

    We had a manager that left and our dev lead took the responsibility for a while - worked better than ever for a month but then they slowly got so backed up they had to stop developing and soon they demanded a full time manager cause they couldn't handle it
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