I know two modellers who use Windows because 3dsmax has never been ported to Mac, and they don't want to switch to Maya / C4D or spend five years learning the basics of Blender. Possibly that's on them as much as Autodesk, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn of other such lock-ins.

@Lensflare don't, you're bringing me out in Sencha Touch hives.

@Lensflare Granted, but I think the original point stands. They could have used an existing language in every case. I was present at the birth (and death) of a vanity internal scripting language, and saw the absolute hell it caused everyone, I'm probably scarred.

@Lensflare I think "learning a pointless language you will never use for anything else" is just part of mobile development at this point. Swift, Kotlin, probably a bunch of others. In a few years they'll be as valuable as Actionscript.

It's 2025 and we still need janky cross-platform solutions, which is on the hardware vendors...but as far as these janky shitfests go, I didn't find flutter TOO bad. I did feel like you at first, because I resent learning an entire platform for what is likely to be one project, but it could be worse. You could be writing native Android.

@AlgoRythm is it 'blazing fast', though? I see a worrying lack of rocket emojis in that spiel.

@Lensflare perhaps we should lobby whichever chimp enclosure maintains the typescript spec to add the nNaN type, for clarity in these situations.

@netikras absolutely. If there's one thing the JS community needs, its another library of wrapper functions for native methods.

@Lensflare that not a number is not not a number is one of the few immutable truths you can rely on with JS.

@donkulator same, it feels wrong typing it out

Been a while but I always used to use (n == n), if that resolves to false then it's NaN. Not that this makes anything saner.

@jestdotty 'twas a joke, if OP is right then I should get a knock on the door in the night. Prisons get a bad name but there's no rent, no bills, and no debugging, count me in.

I'm not really left or right anymore, doesn't matter what you put in the mixture, when you heat it the scum will always rise to the top.

@jestdotty good on you, there's only one way to really deal with a situation like that.

Plus, like all creeps, he was probably right-wing, so doubly deserving of a slap.

As long as I've been alive, this victim mentality has existed. Blaming the mostly-imaginary PC guardians of goodthink is easier than considering that you might just be a terrible person.

@IHateFrameworks Yeah mine's started swearing and apologising for "fucking up" - the fact that it tries to talk like a couldn't-give-a-shit-teenager while admitting it's just wasted an hour of my life makes it worse, but also gives me an experience of what working with junior me must have been like.

I've asked a girl out in a shop exactly once in my life. We're married, now.

That's about the worst outcome, the second-worst might be rejection from someone who doesn't even know you, so you don't need to take it personally. Go for it.

@atheist Indeed. We wouldn't want to bring Infowars into disrepute.

@atheist AFAIK we have regulators like IPSO and Ofcom, which are basically powerless to actually *stop* any of the bullshit, but can compel any news or press outlet to retract and correct (even if it's 4px font on page 300), and fine them rather paltry sums if they don't behave. It's not much, but it's honest.

The places where these people "do their own research" have no such oversight, but they probably see "the freedom to bullshit idiots like us all day long" as some kind of triumph over the deep state or whatever.

@atheist bloody mainstream outlets, with their legal obligation to report accurately. The facts can really get in the way of a good yarn.

@jestdotty nothing irrational about it, we all know that "doing your own research" means googling your own opinion until you find enough people who agree with it, the notion of primary and secondary sources doesn't really get any more advanced than "my mate down the pub who knows for def" or "my mate down the pub's mate, who also knows for def", but sure, I'm a low-IQ troll, like everyone who disagrees with you on the internet probably is.

I imagine this is what being a Vibe Coder feels like.

@jestdotty your PM is right, everyone who has ever implored anyone to "do your own research" is a bit of a tool, at best.

@YourMom I'm not sure that any of those will pass master for a dissertation source, and they're all basically mainstream too, but either way.

I'm British, if that's worth anything, I can tell you that you're being fed a different load of shit to the "mainstream" line. We don't live in some Orwellian police state where you get a life sentence just for saying you're English, so long as you're not a dick and/or causing trouble to bystanders, you can basically do what you like.

@atheist it's mad being told what your own country is actually like from people who don't live in it, eh? Here I was, casually cutting a sarnie in two with a bread knife, blissfully unaware that this could land me with a million-year prison sentence.

@YourMom ah, some isolated misunderstanding in Wales, from that you've decided that we get arrested for having gardening tools as a matter of mandate. Lol.

Mind if I ask where you do your own research?

@AlgoRythm ...in which case I'll ask again: what are you referring to?

@AlgoRythm I've never been asked to hand anything in to the authorities. What are you referring to?

@atheist it's quite scary when you see the extent of it. Every day YT seems to recommend to me another "UK News" channel, all of it is AI-slop and it's always pushing a Reform-approved narrative, my old man would think it's legit.

@YourMom spend less time on the internet mate, the UK is nothing like the professional victims of the right want to project it as being, and it's quite tiring having to read it.

We just bang up people who try to burn down occupied hotels, hardly the USSR.

Typescript - you will turn off the linter and regret using me within two days of deciding your basic web page really needs a type-safe language.