Working 8 hours a day and then having 8 more hours to do what i want (i dont count sleeping for 8 hours since i do nothing then), IS NOT ENOUGH FUCKING TIME. SELLING MY SOUL TO the devil for 8 hours a day, every day, 1/3 of my life FOREVER? This cant be fucking it. This cannot be LIFE. Life is MUCH MORE than this. Fuck off. Im so fucking pissed off

That's why you should find a job you enjoy. That way you'd be having fun, advancing yourself AND on top of that - getting paid.

If you're passionate about IT - even better. Working with wealthy clients enables you to play around with expensive, enterprise toys you would never lay your hands on otherwise.

Learn to see employment as an opportunity rather than a form of paid slavery

How exactly did you plan on seeing your day if you were not working? Did you plan on just absorbing money from our mere privilege of your existence? Seriously, if society didn't exist would you be bitching about hunting and gathering food, water, and supplies? No, because people adapt to provide means for their existence. Working a job is no different.

Do you hate coding or something?

@netikras they (client) confirmed my official start date on 30th december 2023. Or after holidays january 2nd. I'll have to work as devops engineer on a multi trillion dollar banking system. Am i fucked? (Rothschilds own that bank). How do i do this. I barely know azure. I just started learning it rn. Not to mention ansible. Bash scripting. Rexify.org bullshit and on top of all that I'll have to maintain legacy old java 8 backend... $8.125/h

@Demolishun im tired of doing a job where im never sure if i know how to do it. No matter how much i learn theres always something else to learn. More and more. It gives me anxiety and unease. Disturbance during work cz as i work i always then expect some bullshit is gonna pop that i will NOT know how to do. Depending on difficulty of the bullshit it may be So deep that i simply cant learn it or dont have time to learn it fast enough so then what? I get fired? Sick of the shit

@b2plane that is life in tech.

@b2plane be thankful the job challenges you. That will make you much more employable and able to demand a higher salary. Keep track of what you learn and how you used it. Try to have fun.

@Demolishun

> Privilege of existence
> Hunting, water, etc

Well I'd expect if I remove work that has to be done (ala automation, being a programmer and all) that people wouldn't put me into stupid meetings to waste my time or think my ass in a seat is in any way relevant to their business goals

@b2plane quit worrying. You passed the interviews. If you were honest in interviews, the client is fully aware of your skills and, since you've been accepted, the client is OK with your skills level for that project. The client knows better what's needed and you, apparently, are a sufficient fit.

When you start, you'll be overwhelmed by everything there. Somehow push yourself through the first month there. After that everything will become much easier and will start making sense. Noone expects you to deliver 100% from week 1. You're not a senior. Fuck, you prolly won't get all accesses and trainings done in the first month 😁

banks/corps are slow. Try to see it as a benefit

@Demolishun no its not. Frontend is so fucking easy as shit compared to devops and backend. I can learn frontend and reach a point where theres nothing else to learn. I can then work with peace knowing I'll be john wick who will (semi)easily solve any problem within the realm

Thats not the case with backend/devops. Theres always something more and more to learn. Just when i thought learning 10,436 services and concepts is the end, i realize i need to learn 347,896 more. It has no fucking end. So how can i know if ill be able to do the job and get shit done if its impossible to learn it all? Its infinite. While frontend is finite

I've never taken a job I knew how to do. That's boring as fuck.

I want to be challenged, learn, and grow. As soon as I have a good handle on things I go elsewhere.

@lungdart if you move away from something you fully learned and start working on something you're less experienced with u'll end up forgetting almost completely everything you fully learned and then ur back to square 1 of knowing nothing.

I for example worked in flutter since 2017 till early 2022 since i felt like i mastered it and today i completely forgot almost everything i learned in flutter. Havent touched it for almost 2 years ever since i moved to web dev/devops

@b2plane that's not the case at all. You get rusty sure, but you're not starting at square 1, you're starting at square 49, with a jetpack full of nitro.

My first software gig was stimulating guitar pedal effects on a DSP in c++. I took that job because it sounded cool as fuck. My experience before that was a few bash scripts and failed video games in lua.

Was I nervous? Yup. did I think they were going to discover I was a fraud? Yup. Did I dread going to work? Nope!

I recently got a gig in a field I hadn't worked in in almost a decade. I was rusty, but I'm back up to speed within 6 months. I'm much better than I used to be, and got there in 1/4 of the time.

I took this job for money. It's also a FAANG level employer, to make my resume a little more appealing post AI. Otherwise I would have done something more interesting.

Cope.

@netikras I loved this shit when I started

@lungdart but nobody will give you a high salary if you work in something that you have a few months or weeks experience vs something you've been using for 5+ years. So what is the point. Why not use the main thing where you get paid the most because you have experience the most, while learning the other stack on the side?

@b2plane

> while learning the other stack on the side

yes, we've all been this naive at the beginning of our careers :)

Thing is, whatever you learn "on the side" is mostly theoretical. You don't see the creative ways these other "stacks" tend to break and how to fix them, what improvements do users usually require and how to implement them in the company's context.

Another aspect is timing. After your daily 9-5, will you still be up for 2-3 hours of tinkering with smth else, on your own? I think the whole point of this rant was timing and the lack of it and how sorry you are to sell it to the employer, and now we're talking about giving it away for free ;)

8h "to do do what you want"
-1h (or more) commuting (if you WFO)
-1h lunch break aka shoving food in
-30min personal hygiene
-30min household chores
-1h grocery shopping & food prep/intake

That's the basics — and now half of that is gone.

Fortunately I'm not working 40 hours anymore.

@saucyatom what are u working now

@b2plane Something that doesn't really exists, but honestly it took me more than 5 years to get there, some of it very underpaid (like, less than my rent).

"Lehrjahre sind keine Herrenjahre" but when you are in demand (eventually, maybe), remember that money is not the only variable that you can negotiate.

@jestdotty I'm flattered.

@b2plane the scariest thing for me if i wouldn't understand how to solve a problem even if read documentation, or if my brain wouldn't even know how to do the task that employee would ask me to do, or if i accidentally drop the production database. As a kid i broke many times the tech/os because of my curiosity. What i want to say is i hate being responsible for other people shit. I probably wouldn't be able to work with other people anyway because i have social anxiety and feel like outcast, they wouldn't even hire me because of my gloomy vibes.