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jestdotty
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I wanna do a lay of the land survey a bit here

do people at your job threaten you or otherwise demean you?

for example,

threats such as: if you don't work this weekend you're not a team player / a problem element for the team, we don't care about your happiness you should only care about the client's happiness when you're going on your pre-approved vacation and saying no to being on call

demeaning such as unprompted comments like: if you work hard maybe you can be as good as some guy in a totally different department who just got 100$ gift card at a company party ?, and he makes the company 100k a year whereas I made them over half their revenue, in the millions... so that was very confusing. but they did a number of these comments. like the CEO showed pics of his (humble) house and I said it looked nice, and he said if I work hard maybe one day I can afford one wtf -- it's not like he perceived me not to be working hard, the guy literally called me perfect when he was a sourpuss about everyone

how about backhanded rewards? like for example they say you can work from home one day a week to get you excited about something but then turns out the work from home policy requires you to fill out a form they have to approve 2 weeks in advance of the date, and then the CEO comes in and says "yay now you can work from home when you're sick"

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  • 1
    2d
    no.

    also: anyone who works under condition as you described without quitting is an idiot.
  • 1
    2d
    No, never. Except for one particular guy who had some personal issues with me, I've never had any issues with proper work relationships.
  • 3
    2d
    No, my current bosses are chill af.
  • 2
    1d
    > 'we don't care about your happiness you should only care about the client's happiness'

    Somewhat true for me.

    > 'demeaning such as unprompted comments'

    Somewhat - they like quantity && verbosity over quality && conciseness.

    > 'backhanded rewards'

    Somewhat - they give useless gifts I don't care about, but they apparently think they're being generous.
  • 2
    1d
    @tosensei if I would someone not define who's an idiot, it's you, young man.

    Well, if others do work in the weekend to get it done and you're on of the only one not caring or refusing, relatively, you're not a team player indeed. Relatively.

    Work as much as feels good to you and don't care about it if it's a lot or less comparing to others.

    Comparing always makes unhappy.

    Are you a team player btw? :P Asking for a friend.
  • 2
    1d
    @D-4got10-01 `Somewhat - they give useless gifts I don't care about, but they apparently think they're being generous.` -> gifts are cheap. Respect is not. Rather have more of that. But what can i say, I really like the pizza party's! (At one company it was even mandatory and after work time :P). Not my problem, i did my mandatory beers back then in the mean while. Didn't go out on Fridays, the company was the party and got even once ended by police. The most fun fact is, that a lot of people knew exactly who were and why they were involved and a lot of people will never know. Two sorts of people i guess :P
  • 1
    1d
    @retoor if it's work that's actually important to do over the weekend, then there's no need to ask. at all.

    but i doubt that "crucial infrastructure without which people are going to die" is the baseline. and the average project just isn't important enough to waste anybodys free time.

    and in this case, it's not about "not being a team player", but about "maintaining a work-life balance to prevent leaving the team hanging because you have to drop out because you overworked yourself"
  • 1
    1d
    @retoor ironically this is the first time one of @tosensei 's comments can be interpreted as supportive

    hey I used to have 145 IQ. I was the smartest person in every room I ever went to. not anymore because the vaccine mangled my brain. but I still have the egoic intelligence of 28 years of being smarter than every person I ever met

    also tosensei is actually unironically like, really dumb. if I was judgemental against dumb people though my life would've been miserable. I had to learn how to exist with people who were dumber than me. otherwise I would've had a very lonely life. so I can't even take the "dumb" comments seriously lmao. even with my brain damage I'm still smarter than most people, even the people who are regarded as very smart by their communities. so what am I even whining about!

    ---

    for context this was my first and only job and I can't bring myself to try another. because I think it will be as fucked up. felt like prison. I decided I would rather die instead
  • 1
    1d
    @retoor hey they gave me beer

    I don't dislike pizza parties and stuff either

    definitely on the respect. despite offering beer. arbitrarily they would... once you showed to the bar. just decide that you couldn't drink anymore. they're like we will have a 3 hour party at a bar at dinner time. they order no food, and regularly they paid for everyone's alcohol for the 3 hours but sometimes they bait and switch it -- so you showed up and they cut you off an hour or 30 minutes in. people weren't abusing it either but it just felt so dishonest and arbitrary

    I don't even like being drunk. I hated pizza, and this was an Italian place so they did fancy pasta places also, but I hate carbs. I don't want to put carbs in my body. they make me feel terrible. so I never liked the pizza thing. but I always loved the beer thing. sometimes they did lunch and I could order ribs at a tavern basically (they didn't pay for that but still)

    I guess it's the thought that matters -- and if the thought sucks?
  • 0
    1d
    @jestdotty you know that i high IQ does not mean you're smart.

    it can als mean you're being dumb very efficiently.

    which is probably where we're at with you and your self-diagnosed brain damage. (to be precise: i don't doubt you have extensive brain damage, i only doubt it's because of vaccines.)
  • 0
    1d
    @tosensei ye ye ye ye ofc

    acidic as always
  • 0
    1d
    @tosensei LMAO
  • 0
    1d
    @jestdotty acidic? huh. well, seems fitting, since you're pretty basic.
  • 2
    1d
    @tosensei and based as the basic programming language.
  • 2
    1d
    @tosensei for me working and free time actually the same for big part of my life. Loved it. Easy way to be happy.
  • 2
    20h
    @retoor Yup. I don't get 'Respect me, because.'

    Apart from the the basic respect / courtesy you should show another person, by e.g. !insulting them w/o reason, respect is earned, !given by default.

    && when people say retarded shit, they shouldn't be surprised people lose respect for them.
  • 3
    19h
    @D-4got10-01 I say retarded shit to what kind of a person people are, and to troll. I like to say what I really think on things and then watch people seethe. I had some person seething on another platform about the "grammar nazi" picture I posted the other day. This helped me think up more phrases to make them seethe harder: "grammar karen" and "grammar nazi apologist".

    This is what bothers me about the internet. 20 years ago if you called someone a "grammar nazi" they would say stuff like: "I can't help it. I am an english lit major". And it was funny. Now people are saying its shaming people trying to prevent the destruction of language which is an attack on civilization. There are attacks on language, but the phrase "grammar nazi" was never used for this purpose. Its fuck heads that try to change definitions of words to suit political agendas doing that shit.
  • 1
    12h
    @Demolishun Wait... are you... _the_ Skankhunt42?

    The best internet troll that ever lived?

    /jk

    > 'Its fuck heads that try to change definitions of words to suit political agendas doing that shit.'

    I agree.

    > "grammar karen"

    Does she keep asking for the manager? Is she exhibiting unusual && undeserved entitlement?

    But on serious note, learning to properly speak a language is a good thing, so the original 'grammar nazi' would just help people.

    Weird that they get attacked by simply wanting others to speak properly.
  • 1
    11h
    @D-4got10-01

    "Weird that they get attacked by simply wanting others to speak properly."

    They don't. Or at least didn't. It WAS a term of endearment. It wasn't derogatory. This new generation of people is just mental. People get offended if you joke about anything now.
  • 2
    6h
    @Demolishun > 'People get offended if you joke about anything now.'

    That's the sad truth.

    I've seen some pushback for this trend, though.

    At least in some vids from comedy clubs.
  • 1
    1h
    @Demolishun people take things too personally now

    but um

    I mean... fuck. I didn't take my former roommate's comments seriously but apparently he really meant them. how the fuck do I square that. cuz that ended up pretty fucked up

    maybe I have too good a sense of humor about these things? I don't know. it just seems sad somehow that he actually meant those things
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