How did we normalize Project Managers (non-technical scumbags who literally just make excel sheets and track work items) yelling at Developers (they literally get everything done).

Imagine having PMs yelling at surgeons for not removing a tumor fast enough or something.

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    You’re the professional programmer, man. They should be asking YOU how long something will take.
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    I agree in 99.9% of cases. I’ll say that a truly exceptional PM can make a big difference on a project, but they have to be very good. A bad PM will kill a project with unproductive meetings.
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    You reap what you sow.
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    A PM yelling at a surgeon would interesting to watch.
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    @IntrusionCM This answer works for a lot of shit here
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