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preface: I'm fucking exhausted and angry.
Why does everyone assume I know how to do frontend?
Why am I always the design girl?
Why?
You hire me to do backend. STOP GIVING ME FRONTEND DESIGN CRAP. I HATE IT.
AND STOP GODDAMN YELLING AT ME FOR NOT MAKING SOMETHING RESPONSIVE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW.
yes i can learn, but I CAN'T FUCKING PICK UP A SKILL LIKE THAT IN A DAY. Also, I fucking hate it.
STICK IT UP YOUR (min-width: 1400px) ASS.
But seriously, I've spent 13 hours today figuring out completely new things (webpack, susy, express.js, cloudinary, responsive best practices, more webpack) because the boss is in panic-mode (his preferred state) and wants this project released last monday.
guess what? it isn't done.
because i still don't know how to do everything. and ofc there's nobody to ask because there never fucking is.
Seriously, boss-man. hire a fucking designer, and stop being an illiterate sales goon while you're at it. ffs.54 -
Frontend Dev: That's not possible in Frontend, we should do it in Backend.
Backend Dev: That's not possible in Backend, we should do it in Frontend.
-- CIVIL WAR --27 -
Frontend-developer's day is like:
*moving element by 0.0001px to right*:
- *10 new pages appeared*
- *text suddenly disappeared*
- *pictures pierced bottom of page*
- *window.alert("Kill me")*
- *it's night outside the window, but you totally sure a minute ago was a noon*
*moving element back*:
- *no pictures*
- *no text*
- *no moon*
- *10 blank pages*
- *only darkness left in this world...
...and this fcking element, yeah*
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Our designer (and frontender) just saved my ass big time. Had to do a tiny project involving design and frontend so I gave it a try and it looked like crap, deadline in a week. The designer made the most beautiful thing in like two days.
Kudos to all designers for doing what they're good at and ensuring that we, backenders (and cyber security people for that matter), can do our thing without having to worry about knowing how to design stuff and create interfaces because we might hate doing that and sometimes just really suck at it.
Kudos designer guys/girls!8 -
Don't let your team working be like this:
Monday:
Frontend: Hey, is the API ready?
Backend: Sure, will give you later
Tuesday:
Frontend: @backend, is the API ready?
Backend: yeah, yeah, will give you later, yesturday is busy.
Wednesday:
Frontend: @backend, is it ready?
Backend: Been working on some prd bugs, will give you later
Thursday:
Frontend: @backend...
Backend: ...
Friday:
Frontend: @backend...
Backend: Oh, I just find out that you should ask @backend_b for this API...
(I was actually trying to get my avatar, but this story is real)15 -
Frontend is as hard as backend
An appreciation post for every single frontend developer out here who can bear customer, project managers and designers nagging
You guys deserve a gold medal23 -
Fuck frontend. Writing a new service thingy and while the backend was done in about one fucking hour, I've been working on the frontend for hours now because frontend fucking hates me and that feeling is fucking mutual.
Grrrrrrr. (and respect for the ones who can properly develop nice looking interfaces)13 -
html {
design: responsive;
}
I fucking hate frontend webdeveloping... It was all nice! Vertically aligning items using flexbox etc... But then God said, "let there be cunts who use unsupported browsers!"
FUCKING HELL I HATE IT12 -
Got fed up with Wix adverts on Facebook so I hid it. It then asked me why, so, as a Frontend Developer, I said Wix is offensive to me.
Tell me I'm wrong! 😉13 -
*me searching for jobs*
*types in 'junior backend developer'*
First result:
Junior Frontend Developer.
*big facepalm*
Yeah I understand that it might just be some kinda algorithm that filters on words or whatever but the irony was real!13 -
A story of the backend dev. from our client:
"I used !important once now I'm not allowed to do frontend anymore :("17 -
Frontend team : We pushed our code. Please give instructions regarding integration with Backend.
Me : Alright. I'll provide you the API docs and you can continue with integration.
F : But that's your job. No?
Me (didn't want to argue) : I'll look into it. Let me check out the frontend till then.
* Goes on to see the frontend *
I am kidding you not, that moth*rf*ck*r pushed an entire template along with dummy text.
Me : Hey! This doesn't seem right. It's just a template you got off the internet.
F : Yeah! That's what I have to do. To put on the dynamic content from database is your work. Don't put your responsibilities on me!!
Are you f*cking kidding me?! Do your work right or I am reporting you to the team lead!
Meanwhile, team lead : *sips coffee. Disappears for months*
Bastards!7 -
Working with a "senior frontend developer"
HIM: committed this code, and took him 2 weeks before his first commit on our project
var str = ''
if (string == 'String Here') {
str = 'stringhere'
} else if ( string == 'Another String Here') {
str = 'anotherstringhere'
} and so on ...
ME: WTF?
ME: can we do it like this?
ME: str = string.replace(/\s/g, '').toLowerCase()
Maybe he is senior by age :D10 -
Working on the privacy site.
DAMN frontend can be a FUCKING pain in the ass!
I JUST WANT TO GET A SIMPLE BOOTSTRAP PAGE WORKING, IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FROM A BACKENDER? 😭30 -
Me: Hmm, let's check what's the issue with this styles... Seems like nothing special...
*15 minutes later*
Me: Well, now that's just fine, now i'm closin' this one and commitin'...
Wait, what the...?
/* frontend-developer's day rubric. devrant edition */
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So this guy is supposed to do the frontend.
I do the backend.
I offer an endpoint.
He does his HTML+CSS magic.
Me: Cool but data is hardcoded. Could you get the data from the endpoint I sent you?
Him: "I'd prefer you do that, I can make a git repo so you download the front."
... So you don't do frontend, you just write pretty layouts. And I have to actually write the frontend logic? Go f yourself.13 -
*attempting to flirt at the bar*
Hey! I'm a full stack developer, so I can do your frontend and your backend10 -
My Typical Project
1. Identify common problem
2. Investigate options
3. Come up with clever solution
4. Implement backend solution
5. Get fed up with current frontend
6. Investigate other frontend
7. Realize perpetual chaos in Javascript landscape
8. Lie down in a corner
9. Cry myself to sleep4 -
Would the web be better off, if there was zero frontend scripting? There would be HTML5 video/audio, but zero client side JS.
Browsers wouldn't understand script tags, they wouldn't have javascript engines, and they wouldn't have to worry about new standards and deprecations.
Browsers would be MUCH more secure, and use way less memory and CPU resources.
What would we really be missing?
If you build less bloated pages, you would not really need ajax calls, page reloads would be cheap. Animated menus do not add anything functionally, and could be done using css as well. Complicated webapps... well maybe those should just be desktop/mobile apps.
Pages would contain less annoying elements, no tracking or crypto mining scripts, no mouse tracking, no exploitative spam alerts.
Why don't we just deprecate JS in the browser, completely?
I think it would be worth it.22 -
So this backend developer boasted.
"All the controls are in my hands.. you frontend developers are just the puppets of our API's".
Next day i did this:
If (email === '****') {
profilePicture = 'dick.jpg';
}5 -
Welcome to backend development, when only felow programmers know what you are doing, and fucking frontend guys get all the credit.9
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Sometimes I envy frontend developers because the very nature of their role involves rapid change. Then I remember that backend devs can practically get away with murder and the customer will be none the wiser.2
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Me: I can't get a grasp on frontend and nice interfaces...
Friend: it's actually quite easy:
Rule 1 -Don't reinvent the wheel..
Rule 2 -That does not look like a wheel.
Made my day :D1 -
Modern web frontend is giving me a huge headache...
Gazillion frameworks, css preprocessors, transpilers, task runners, webpack, state management, templating, Rxjs, vector graphics,async,promises, es6,es7,babel,uglifying,minifying,beautifying,modules,dependecy injection....
All this for programming apps that happen to run inside browsers on a protocol which was designed to display simple text pages...
This is insanity. It cannot go on like this for long. I pray for webasm and elm to rescue me from this chaos.
I work now as a fullstack dev as my first job but my next job is definitely going to be backend/native stuff for desktop or mobile. It seems those areas are much less crazy.10 -
It took me 18 hours to implement the design and 3 hours for the actual logic..
Damn you frontend 😪6 -
I'm getting so fucking tired of frontend development...
I still like part of it, but I really hate CSS, browser compatibility, stupid users, dumb requests from product owners and fucking weird designs. And to top it all, it's the frontend team that handles all the pressure when the deadline comes up and the project's late, even if it was the product/design/whatever phase that took too much time.
Being a frontend developer is very stressful and has so many annoyances and I'm getting sick of it.
My company's been promising giving me some backend work because there are some backend-heavy projects coming up and they know I have the skills, but they just keep giving me frontend work. Also, one of our frontend developers is on leave, which means more work for the rest of us.
Why did I ever decided to do frontend development?6 -
Almost all of our back end devs are sick today and our PO kept pinging the dev Slack channel with the same core bug, so I replied with this.
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story of my life
*2 months ago manager forces me (frontend dev to work on backend) and he agrees to do that only until new year*
*new year arrives frontend dev wants to go back to frontend*
*manager surprised pikachu face*1 -
Stupid javascript.
Stupid hoisting-oblivious "frontend devs."
Stupid browser-specific javascript behavior.
Stupid thrown-together javascript minifier that literally only strips out whitespace and comments.
Stupid poorly-written javascript spamming my api.
Time to rewrite it. Grumble grumble. Soo not how I wanted to spend my morning-turn-afternoon.
Leading to the last but not least:
Stupid me forgetting javascript's quirks.12 -
Had a guy text me saying that he developed a Discord clone 5 hours into a frontend bootcamp. Intrigued, I asked him to send me a link to it, because for a person starting from scratch, that's great!
And send me a link he did. Check it out, and give me your reviews.
http://127.0.0.1/helloworld/...7 -
Don't you love it when you take a look at a company frontend React code and GraphQL queries and they say you are hacking them? 🤔🤦🏻♂🤣
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Why do so many companies think that frontend work can be stuffed at the end of the product development right before a release is expected.
And to top it off, expect all things to be working, smooth, animating, responsive, crisp, fast with 100 fucking lighthouse score.
🖕 To everyone who thinks frontend work is meh!, Not real programming and similar. Fuck you!7 -
A discussion about writing tests for frontend applications.
Context: my frontend coworkers don't write tests, at all. Yeah, really. Our testing process is very manual. We test manually when developing. We test manually when reviewing code. After merging, the application is deployed to a staging server and the design team does a QA Sprint. Lots of manual testing and some bugs still crawl by.
So I decided to start pushing my coworkers to start writing tests. One of the reasons I constantly hear them say to not write tests in the frontend is: "It's not worth the time, because design keeps changing, which means we have to take time to fix the tests. Time that we usually don't have."
I've been thinking about this a lot and it seems to me that this is more related to bad tests than to tests in general.
Tests should not break with design changes (small changes at least). They should test funcionality, not how things look. A form should not break if the submit button's style changes, so why should its tests fail? I also think that tests help save time, as they prevent some back and forth because of bugs.
Writing good tests is the hard part. Tests that cover what's really important and aren't frail and break with things that shouldn't break them. What (and how) should we test? And what shouldn't be tested?
Writing them fast is another hard thing. Are you doing it right if they take more time to write than the actual code?
What do you think about this? Do you write tests for your frontend applications? What do you test? How much time do you spend writing tests? What are your testing tools/frameworks?6 -
Today I continued working on my File Encryption Frontend, nothing functional, yet!
The icons are selfmade, I think at least the folder icon is pretty.
Our programm will have something like a Zip-Explorer feeling too it, but our aim is still encrypting files to the unbreakable point.
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Recruiting front end right now… I’m tiered of this BS.
95% of applicants: “hey I don’t understand what you want, but look at my cool, ToDo app in <INSERT ANY framework>”
“Ok, now add a quick search in your todo project”
“Oh wow, it’s like 5 days work lol and should be managed at back end. I Shouldn’t care”.
How HOW these idiots even have a job ?
I’m out of words. I want to scream, pull my own hair and (Weirdly enough) watch a DareDevil movie9 -
Love it when you open up a frontend devs project and among some 50 included npm packages for a really simple project you see this
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Sorry for the post spam.....
But i had to
devBanner Frontend finally available!
(and it is beautiful as fuck, i used no css, cutting edge tech)
https://cozyplanes.github.io/devBan...
We are looking for a frontend dev and a designer, if interested, join here
https://gitter.im/devBanner/Lobby
Want to contribute to our project?
Come here
https://github.com/cozyplanes/...
bug reports here too13 -
UX: here, build this page.
Me, frontend: alright...
2 weeks later...
UX: build this new page.
Me: ehmm, this is an exact copy of the last one, except it has different spacing and messed up colours, some don't even fit the customer's colour scheme...
UX: yeah, well, do it anyways!
1 week later:
UX: so, the customer didn't like this second page, it will now have to be changed to look like the first...
Me: 😤4 -
I applied for a frontend dev position.
The HR sent me a mail with details for MERN developer position (Full-stack) and asked me do an assignment with frontend and backend 🤔
I requested to clarify if I'm supposed to do only frontend as that's the position I applied for.
No response on that. They got back and requested me to schedule an interview.
I have worked with NodeJS before but I primarily work on the frontend, still I went along with it anyway.
I aced the first two rounds, but for the final round they emphasized on the backend and then it went downhill. At the end they said I was really good on the frontend but for that position they needed someone particularly with expertise on the backend. 🤷♂️
Well, I didn't intend to work Full-stack anyway.
They wanted me do everything and also lead the team and mentor juniors and take ownership of multiple projects.
I mean, why would I want to work the job of two people (or more) and not get paid that much 🤨5 -
How Bad I'm at frontend Development: about 3 year ago i accidentally wrote </from> instead of </form> while working on the frontend of a website, everything just went bonkers. Took me 10+ hours to realize my mistake.
In my opinion frontend devs are real hero they have to learn multiple frameworks, and make website respinsive and work on IE at the same time. Idk Why the fuck clients still want their website to work on IE (fuck you Carl, your users are of age group 15-22 they don't even know wtf IE is)
P. S. At that time i didn't knew HTML validators are a thing.6 -
I fucking hate frontend development
>updates three dependencies for security reasons
>entire thing falls apart
>spends whole week to fix it
>its literally just two lines to fix it but those lazy mfs had to ask a QA to rewrite it
>mfw3 -
To all frontend webdevs here:
Explain to me how do you cope with all this insane clusterfuckness of frameworks, tools and js libraries.
Why is it so hard for a beginner like me to learn webdev? Android and backend are much more logical and sane. Even Node.js is pretty dope.11 -
How do you guys deal with "senior" devs that want to use you because they're not so "senior"???
Situation:
There's this SR Frontend developer that keeps asking me for "suggestions" to modernize the frontend.
This dev, was asked a very simple ticket involving some JS and CSS.
I had to do the JS and this dev modified a VENDOR CSS (that was all she did)
She logged 3d6h of figuring out the ticket and "doing a bunch of cross browser testing"
I logged 2 hours to see what to do and implementing the change.
Now she is asking me to join in a group so "we" can come up with a plan.
I hate how people bullshit their way up2 -
Having worked with all the major frontend frameworks. I can finally say that Vue is fking awesome!!! Way better than react and angular.
I hope the one man army continues. Evan You.2 -
"I dont like the way that you splitted your code into multiple small files. Simply put every logic into one controller." - so called "frontend architect" after reviewing a team's Angular code. I dont know what to think.2
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Boss only likes stuff he can see and that looks pretty. Doesn't understand code, servers, containers, DBs, etc. Praise is attributed by something looking nice in the frontend, whether or not it does crazy stuff behind the scenes.
Spent a week working on a project whilst boss was away. Got to about Thursday and thought, oh poop, I've built all this API stuff, but not much frontend. So I panic built frontend screens with no functionality just so I had something to show.
Wish I had another dev to share backend progress with (and code review)...8 -
That thing we all tried - explaining to project managers what the difference is between back and frontend,
Today i got 23 backend bugs assigned to me as a frontend 💩 -
Imagine developing a frontend for 2 months.
And then one day, PM says, that we have a critical library that we need to integrate with. There is no other alternative (apparently).
And then you check the library, and see, that it's written in a completely different language, that we can't really integrate with.
Project restarts and you get blamed, for not mentioning this earlier.
Yay!7 -
codepen is the best thing which could happen to frontend development... i tried it out 5 months ago and now it is the most important part of my development process4
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Today I explained to my wife why my night stand is a mess, and hers is clean and ordered by using the backend/frontend metaphor.
I am the backend, handling bills, bank accounts, taxes, warranties and all the paperwork.
She is my frontend, handling my social interactions.
Now she hates me, but she admitted I'm right.
She still want me to clean my night stand though.4 -
A frontend dev asked for my assistance in writing a tricky helper function, told him i'd be back in 5, as I was just heading out the door for a cup of coffee.
Came back a little later, maybe 10 minutes instead of 5, and he says:
"Nevermind, I solved it by installing plugin XYZ v4"
Checked out the codebase for said plugin afterwards, and discovers it's around ~30MB of code, and adds a shit ton of "premium version" ads to the backend.
YOU FUCKING TWATFACE! YOUR LAZY FUCKTRUMPET ASS COULDN'T WAIT 5 MORE MINUTES?!!
I NOW HAVE THE MISFORTUNE OF REWRITING YOUR ABYSMAL DISASTER, OR DEAL WITH THIS PIECE OF SHITWARE..4 -
I don't know which is worse:
1. My project manager telling me that I will have to make a whole project on my own within a month (frontend, backend, etc etc) for our major client and if I make it, we will get a bigger project for a longer period or
2. The colleague next to me being loud (speaking to himself, chewing things) at random intervals.2 -
Front-End / Frontend / Front End?
Spider-Man / Batman / Iron Man?
The way you type the word frontend is subconsciously chosen by your superhero.8 -
After doing my first web dev project, I can definitely see why most of you guys prefer backend over frontend.6
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That joy feeling when you are finally rewriting the backend and frontend with GraphQL instead using the fuckin old undocumented REST API who was written by fuckin amateur ex-coworker.
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Debugging frontend is like searching for a needle in a pile of shit, that someone sold to a shitdigger in another country.4
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There was a time when backend engineers used to make fun of frontenders and tell them 'you arent a real software engineer', nowadays frontend is getting so complex and cool that even backenders are now starting to learn frontend. I am so happy that because of new tech and frameworks frontend has gained such a massive respect.26
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Decided to dive a bit into frontend and discovered vue-js.
Why didn't I know you, back when I contributed to my highschools website?!2 -
Damn frontend crap.
The fact that you have to mask all of the disease with processable versions of css, html & js is bad enough, but there are like 6 dialects of each bandaid, and every project has traces of each.
The the design kid tells me to run this grunt script, frontender number two screams "no, dont use grunt, we use gulp! or was it bower? I guess just run it through yeoman, it's easy!", after which the third fucking shitty hipster yells "No that's outdated, just edit the webpack file, and then run yarn install... oh but run npm upgrade --global yarn first"
Did you just fucking tell me to upgrade a fucking package manager with another package manager?
Composer, gem or cargo are not always without problems. But at least us backenders have our fucking shit together. The worst we have to deal with is choosing Python 2 vs 3, or porting some old code so the server can migrate to PHP7.
The next person to tell me they found this awesome tool to manage his other tools... I'll fucking throw your latte all over your wacom tablet.2 -
If you’re a frontend developer but you don’t know when to use -, when to use – and when to use —, you’re not a frontend developer. You’re a monkey.17
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Backend devs (and yes, even full-stack folks) who naively dismiss the nuance of a frontend dev role have clearly never tried to do a really good job at it. Or, don't realize the fullness of the responsibilities, more like.
Frontend devs have to reconcile all the requirements (and sometimes whims) of the following people:
- End Users, obviously
- Desires of Business stakeholders
- Visual Designers
- UX (Yes, it's a different discipline from vis design)
- Fellow frontend devs
- Performance budgets
- Accessibility specialists
- Content Authors (if using a CMS)
And rarely are they ever ALL aligned. Some days, it feels less like development and more like brokering deals and compromises.5 -
Just got into a company as a fresher. Have never liked doing frontend (no offence). They are making me do frontend. Now, I'll forever bear the tag of a frontend developer. Can't quit due to money issues. Don't know where life will take me.4
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I work in a big German company and we are a lot of teams building the company website.
Obviously the website is in German but almost all the devs are not German speakers, included the testers.
To make the work easier in the frontend we use sometimes the translation function of chrome and it's funny because a lot of time I got a bug opened by a tester for a wrong label because HE FUCKING FORGOT TO DISABLE THE TRANSLATION AND HE THINKS THAT THE LABEL IS IN THE WRONG LANGUAGE1 -
I've never been a frontend guy, I only could modify existing FE code and had some clues about how to write a hello-world using angular.
I've just refactored ~150 files in an Angular project, created half a dozen new modules and modularized lots of loose artefacts.
And after recompiling the project still works! And is now more maintainable!
I think I now can safely add "Angular" to my resume :)
P.S. Damn it, Angular is cool!!!9 -
I suck doing frontend development. I'm slow, and I usually struggle to obtain the results I'm looking for... but today I'm happy because I almost finished the website for one of my side projects:
https://www.avatar-cli.dev
I'm going out of a long depression, and seeing things done is really helping me to improve my mood and have more energy.
By the way, thanks to the https://getzola.org project, it would have been impossible to me without it.
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Yesterday I was reminded by myself why I prefer working on backend instead on frontend. Css is definitely one of the shittiest things I've ever seen especially if you try to overwrite some Css settings if the used cms theme.3
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First-time goona work on frontend(my worst nightmare).
That too Angular.
That too on a file containing 900 LOC.
That too with no proper naming, variable names x,e, obj.
That too with no comment.
Cant take help as I am the lead(name-sake, small team, I have 6month more experience than others)
I have 2 days(thank god for the weekends).
Fuck...Fuck...I missed writing CLI apps.7 -
I think the reason most people hate frontend these days can be summed up by the fact that the frontend of my fairly simple React webapp is about 850 loc while the entire Express and MongoDB server is a mere 234 loc
God damn frontend is a lot of work these days6 -
So recently moved to a new place. New roommates. Thought lets initiate a talk. Found out one of em is a web developer.
Me: So, what you working on?
Him: Web technologies
Me: oh great...I worked on ReactJS and AngularJS.
Him: Our company uses AngularJS.
Me: So you work on AngularJS, right?
Him: Oh no I don't work on AngularJS...I am a frontend developer...
(Awkward silence)
(Inner me: No shit. Need to find new place.)
Should I tell him?1 -
Am I the only backend Web developer with minimal knowledge of frontend? How can frontend be so hard.5
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It's been 1 month in my first dev job.
I'm really happy but there is one problem...
Despite my role as a full stack dev in a fullstack team, I deal with only frontend stuff so far.
I asked to get some backend tasks from my boss, and he said "in due time".
Is it because I'm a junior? Is it normal?5 -
New toy for frontend devs:
OpenType 1.8 Variable Fonts.
1 font file to rule them all. Manipulate on the fly fluidly the font weight via css and javascript.
http://blog.typekit.com/2016/09/...
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!rant. Story from my college abt 6 months old.
We had to make projects for our course.
One team made a very nice project. One part of that was mobile no. verification using OTP.
And the student who was supposed to to that, did it by sending the required otp to the frontend page, and when user enters it, validate it using javascript.
The prof got mad about it and the rest of the class couldn't stop laughing.
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Hi guys, I'm planing to move to the Netherlands(Amsterdam) by the middle/end of this year and I would like to ask for advices, recomendadtions or any info is welcome.
I'm 23 years old living in Spain since 12. Frontend Developer with 2 years experience in Angular, Node.
Also would like to know the salaries range for frontend Developer if someone knows anything.
Thanks a lot8 -
Frontend double standards: havind two CSS frameworks on THE SAME FREAKING PROJECT, with arbitrary usage!!!!11one5
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At a "guided internship".
Task: Develop a complete web application form
Was assigned to a team of 7 where all are "Frontend Developers" who have never heard terms like "bootstrap" or "mobile-first web pages".
That aside, all are seniors in age and qualifications, hence me telling them something to do is "ordering them around". And if I tell them to leave things to me, they be like "No, we wanna contribute and do the Frontend, as these things don't matter, inline css just works fine". 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Why Lord? Just why?4 -
I usually don't like frontend but dammit, I'm in love with Less.
It's so painless, compared to plain CSS. -
Frontend web development is a fucking jungle. I feel like bloody Bear Grylls whenever I come out of my backend cave - shit's overwhelming, yo.2
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I fucking hate webpack and frontend development so fucking much, why do I have to see my site not loading the bundled JS code on production but being absolutely fine in dev? is like watching my mom being run by a car over and over and over while I try to remember how it all was before she gets run over, FUCKING STOP WEBPACK, I havent sleep but just 4 hours since yesterday, I NEED YOU TO WORK JUST AS YOU DID IN DEV WITHOUT THE PERKS OF HMR FFS, JUST FUCKING DO IT2
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Today’s text chat:
Me walking near the river in the middle of nowhere with a cellphone.
frontend developer:
- I need image from test server. Can you provide me that image ? I need it for my local environment to fix something ( writes details of how to get an image ).
me:
- Can’t you go to test server website and get it by yourself ?
frontend developer:
- But this image is on canvas element.
me:
- Because frontend is drawing in on canvas so go to network tab and get the url.
frontend developer:
- Ah yes I can do that
I have such small talks all the fucking time. They accumulate when I go out to chill during the day.1 -
I am a frontend dev but please don’t trust me 100% with responsive, works in every browser, animation heavy, top of the line, UIs.
Also I don’t know how to work with Wordpress.
Also don’t ask me questions about Webpack, Node, or anything related to builds/configs. (I will be happy to google search my answers for you tho)
But I am a frontend dev.5 -
Sometimes I feel like giving my client a Craigslist-frontend website. Saves me shit load of time to pretty up.
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How do y'all deal with reading other people's code?
Context: was given a frontend project (I'm a frontend dev) that was started and is managed by a backend dev who just started doing frontend.
I want to start from scratch as I don't understand a thing he codes, conventions are all off, and the structure is just weird.5 -
When backend is slow to add fields of data, and product manager is after you, the frontend dev to add the new feature.
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The more I learn frontend the more I like it. Imagine, actually becoming good at something makes you hate it less! I know, I know, I was shocked too.
Completely unrelated question:
if you have all the mods for the factors of a product, is it possible to derive the factors from the modulus?
(lol you know what this is about).
The product "fingerprinting" I talked about a while back is starting to allow me to find the modulus of factors, and I want to know what I can do with that if anything.3 -
Co-worker: Please finish and push your frontend asap, I need that to start working on the backend.
Me: Why aren't you using Postman?
Cw: I don't like it.6 -
Landed my first job as a Frontend Developer after interning for 6 months.
While I already have learnt a lot about work culture, I would love to hear any tips, advices or things to know about.9 -
Question to the frontend devs: I'm currently trying to optimize part of our JS. How do sourcemaps influence loading/rendering Speed in the Browser?
In the `webpack.config.js` we use uglify as minimizer for js. It has the option `sourceMap` Set to `true`. Now as I understand it, this caused it to Inline a sourcemap inside the JS file (which leads to a slightly bigger file size and thus longer load time for the generated file...).
My Question: should sorcemaps be enabled for prod (minified) files? Why yes, why no? Do they help the browser parse the JS faster?12 -
I have a lot of experience in Frontend development. I feel I am good but I want to be better. Do you all have any tips and/or suggestions that could help me and others in the community?4
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!rant
Guys, will a 150kb minified js package for frontend slow my site down? How large is too large for a frontend script?6 -
Lodash, Rimraf, Grunt, Gulp... I'm still not convinced that our frontend guy isn't just playing Pokémon Go all day2
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Since the issue is within the legacy backend data, this brings us the great opportunity to solve and sanitize the data on the frontend and therefore killing the performance of the application! Sincerely, a manager that doesn't give a shit3
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Is it just me or is it just really hard to set up and test frontend JavaScript? 🤔
Karma + Mocha + Chai + whatever
is a pain
And it doesn't look very pretty..3 -
Question to all JS Frontend Devs: What light and performant library can you recommend me today?
I'm a C++ dev who is a bit anxious about performance, load times etc. and before I stuck my nose into vanilla js, maybe there is something better/faster. I'm a total frontend noob, e.g. I heard that html tables aren't a thing anymore and that I should use divs?
My task is quite simple, I want to give the users the ability to press some buttons and drag and drop stuff around instead of modifying the URL per hand :/
So if someone could point me in the right direction, that would be awesome!16 -
I once had a heated discussion with another developer over whether AngularJS is backend or frontend. For some reason he believed it's a backend framework.1
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BLAZING FAST
I never see this said with reference to a fucking hardware driver or a shit hot games engine, it's always used to persuade me to use some fucking frontend framework.
It's JS, running in a browser, polishing the turd of the clapped-out DOM - I don't EXPECT it to be fast. I just don't want it to go completely to fuck straight away. The bar is so low that the core of the Earth is melting it.3 -
I'm amazed how our Frontend team are able to consistently break our Vagrant builds, despite them only using Grunt...
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Frontend Developers
checkout this awesome vanilla frontend boilerplate.
I always wanted something like this and never found one.
the main feature is -> PHP's include like feature. eg. create nav.html and use it in multiple places.
other notable feature -> bootstrap's grid (only grid, not whole bootstrap shenanigans) for responsiveness eg. .row, .col-11, etc
and npm install to use packages within the project.
plus more checkout.
https://github.com/MinSomai/...6 -
I worked for a month in an ionic app without having any idea about frontend develop cuz my boss needed it quick and now that its done he doesnt even tested it out1
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My Frontend team lead came to me today to show me some "amazing" React component he wrote.
It was a pile of overengineered shit. -
Don't you love when the designer can do their pretty shit without consulting you and then the client ask you why the shit the designer made looks so different.1
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Job post I saw today. They are either looking for:
- C/C# Dev to the company
- HAPPY Frontend dev
- Java Dev to the company
Well now.. only the front end gets to be happy but doesn't know where to work while the other two can be grumpy and know they'll work at the company? 🤔
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Rookie here in need of help.
Is it possible to become a backend dev within 4 months?
I have been learning frontend on and off for a couple of years because I hate my job as a salesman. But I always imagined myself more as backend developer.20 -
Well, here it is finally, a first preview of the Covey Web UI.
It's powered by CoreUI (the only easy to use admin thing I could find).
If you want to look at the code, be warned: I don't do frontend...
https://github.com/chabad360/covey
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Ok, let's do the opposite (reference to a previous rant).
Should a frontend developer know about:
- Data structures and algorithms?
- User interface design patterns and usability?
- User experience heuristics?
- Accessibility?
- Design tools?
- How websites work on the browser after the frameworks have done their job?
- Data flow, and artifacts like user stories?13 -
Muahahaha!
Stupid canvas! I killed you!
No more anti-aliasing for you! Now it's time for pixel perfect drawings and a finally functioning floodfill algorithm!
I only had to make my own full custom drawing routine. It is not that I had other things to do, right?!
Seriously: Who the heck decided to implement anti-aliasing for a canvas that cannot be deactivated? Who!?
Oh, I hate frontend so much. That's not my world... -
Is it good time to switch to CSS Grid Layout frameworks such as Blueprint CSS? How is good/bad as compared to Flexbox?6
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I have a question, but first some background. When I got my first job, it wasn't clear cut what I would do, but I ended up doing frontend. I really liked doing frontend, so I continued doing so and I still do to this day. I even work alongside designers in a design studio, so I feel very much like a frontend developer.
Obviously, the term "frontend" these days implies someone, in some ways, writing a web, mobile or desktop app using javascript. For me, frontend is also about stuff like accessibility, design, code delivery, and understanding the end-users and the designers that may have prototyped something for you.
I have not been active in any other dev communities than this place, but it seems to me like a frontend developer is pretty much the lowest common denominator ( I guess in terms of skills). If I am right, I do not know why, which is why I'm hoping someone could explain.9 -
Just found out about ElectronJS.
Man! My frontend will be so much more good looking compared to my previous experiences with Desktop Apps with tkinter (in Python) or swing, awt (in Java)
... Wondering if it has any DISadvantages over the latter ones 🤔9 -
So I started my frontend framework learning by getting to learn Vue. Now, like, a year later, and after I've got a ton of experience with Vue, having written numerous apps with it and earned some $$$$, I'm learning React. Just because of, yeah, react-native. I feel like a caveman just by writing all that annoying overhead. :/8
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Football/futbol/soccer analogy:
Frontend engineers are like strikers - you see their work, good and bad, and you don’t notice how many contribute to their success. Backend engineers are like goalies - you only really notice when they do a _bad_ job and don’t see how many things contribute to their failure.5 -
Newbie frontend guy joined last month right after college. He's my age but never worked before. Wants to "fix" the entire codebase with cool new hippy react features without providing a valid reason to do so. Also, "hey, I don't understand what someone wrote, so let's just change the entire fucking thing so I don't have to put in the effort of understanding real, working code"
What's more annoying is that he won't settle even when being asked to do so by the senior guys.2 -
I remembered in my previous job, I was a frontend Dev and there is a backend developer. There's a task where computations are needed before presenting data in the frontend. Backend Dev asked me to do the computations in the frontend instead. Well well 🤷♂️
Have you experienced this before?6 -
This is my frontend tip of the day.
If you have a frontend that consumes an external API:
1) Retrieve the json responses from devtools
2) Save them in your project as json files (trim the data a bit if it's too long)
3) When starting your app with a special env var like MOCK_DATA, make your app mock the data and use your saved json data instead.
You can associate each response with an url regex.
The package fetch-mock mocks fetch really well, it lets through the urls that don't match anything.
This way you can incrementally add responses.
And voila, you have a mode where you have near instant page loads to test things manually, and you also have mocked data ready for testing eg, cypress. -
I understand that front end frameworks are important when scaling an app/project but it’s not a necessity for small student projects.
Can someone make me understand how a student can make use of the frontend frameworks not just for the sake of learning it but the framework actually being a necessity4 -
So I'm working on a project with another developer and a frontend guy. Now the frontend guy has the lead as the other dev and I can only do our job based on his work. So he had 3 months to deliver us the first part BUT has rarely been in communication. When he does email he just says "designing concept "FOR 3 FUCKING MONTHS" Now we are 1 week before the project is due for delivery and he is saying that he will send us over the concept this FRIDAY!! 3days days before project is due.........................................................................................AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHRBFKDBDKSJRUDISNCFKSORVEOFBFOWBFFKDKWNDB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!2
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What use is a frontend developer (having exclusively frontend development knowledge) that's not a designer / isn't good at design.
Sorry if I'm being harsh, but you're either a web developer, knowing how to build web apps (or websites, or whatever), or a UX developer or whatever, knowing how to do pretty (and usable and accessible and...) things. Or even both.
Lemme say it differently. You either come from a web design and build a frontend, or come from the development of an application (database, logic, architecture, APIs, etc., backend++) and build a frontend for it. Again, or both.
Not being able to design, and not being able to build a product, is just... nothing? You're in the middle.
Sorry, but I don't think you're a developer. Maybe a coder.11 -
Do you guys think that the frontend or a javascript developer is an easy job? is less than a backend developer?
let's discuss5 -
Even though I'm learning Node.js, I'm still a little confused about the distinction between Node and frontend JavaScript.
Where does frontend JavaScript end, and Node begin? What are the practical distinctions between the two?5 -
Been working frontend on a very large ASP.Net Core project with React. The company is a multi national oil company. I asked for some documentation on their React components, like where is the props, why is this component showing this side-effect and is there a component for X and Y so that you won't have to pay me in order to dig around in the codebase? They told me they will document the frontend when the project is finished (whenever that may be?)
So basically, there won't ever be any documentation then.3 -
So I've wanted to do / am doing front end for what seems like a while now. My bff does back end and ask me for insight a fair amount and my insight helps or either puts him on the right track. why is it I can more easily understand back end opposed to frontend? Also its taken me far to long to learn js and yet almost completely understand SQL to which I have never written.1
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!rant
Frontend people, I need your opinion.
I will soon start building the next version of a rather large project's frontend but I am mostly a backend guy.
It is a custom made web application (PHP, Postgres) that handles all business aspects of a shipping company of about 50 people (trucks, truck free space in shipments for new packages, package tracking via gps on the truck, invoicing, reselling shipping services to other businesses, everything).
The existing frontend is using an ancient version (1.x) of the YUI framework and uses AJAX heavily to refresh the user interface. It's usable, but maintaining and extending it is getting really hard as the project grows larger and larger and more systems are integrated.
So the question is, given this use case, what JS framework do I use and what is a good resource to start learning it?5 -
Any tips to stop getting pissed at your designer's design?
I was given a frontend task after so long (I'm a backend developer who has frontend experience) and the design is very good except architecture wise it's very difficult to build. It's not impossible, but it's very tricky to implement.
Our client has already approved the design, so I guess there's nothing I can do about it
But I am getting constantly annoyed when implementing the design. Whenever I look at the design, I feel like swearing all the time. I feel the designer is very inconsiderate. The design looks very good at big desktop screen, but some part looks dumb in responsive or tablet.
Does anyone ever feel the same? And maybe have tips for me to get by?
My managers have started telling me to stop saying "it's difficult" or "it's too hard". But it is difficult! And I am getting more annoyed when they tell me that.
Whenever I tell the designer that certain part is not gonna work (because we try to make things general so we can reuse), he will argue and somehow ended up saying "come on, just think how prideful you will be after implementing this".3 -
Is there actually any frontend framework or boilerplate to just code and avoid messing around with old libraries, missing dependencies, no documentation? I'm seriously moving to plain ES6, it feels more flexible :/1
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How I fucking hate those programmers who say they only can do backend stuff because they don't like front-end work... You godamn pussies, as a programmer you have to be able to adapt to a given projects requirements. If you are not able to do that you are not a real developer in my eyes. So grow a pair and the next time you have the chance to do some frontend work take it, maybe there is someone who in return would like to dable in some backend work for once.13
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Post Mortem: Yarn Workspaces
So yarn workspaces are fucken sick, i love them. As long as you don't want to deploy your shit, because your api most certainly needs node_modules, your vue frontend doesn't... -
Saw a Job ad stating they give a brand new MacBook Air as you get hired (as a FrontEnd developer)
Is this a red flag? BC to me it really looks like a red flag.
Why would I specifically need a Mac? Just to test stuff on shitty Safari? I really hope so and I also really hope that it won't be to start developing iOS apps11 -
My friend works for a subsidery of an event organization company.. the sole purpose of the subsidery is to develop/maintene and upgrade their products. The just Started redesigning frontend of the website for the 4th time in last 16 months, because their boss changes their mind every 5minutes.1
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I'll put it this way. Svelte is like Kotlin. It's modern, elegant and a pleasure to work with.
React is like Java. Old, bloated and a pain to work with.
Svelte makes React look like it was built by masochists.
I don't work on frontend often, mostly because I despise the frameworks.
Svelte is a breath of fresh air.
I just want to ship a product quickly and it doesn't get in the way.3 -
How to protect API endpoints from unauthorized usage by bots?
If the API end points are meant to be used by any incoming to CSR frontend user without prior registration?
So far, my the only idea is going from pure CSR React to something with partial SSR at least in Node.js, Django or any other backend framework. I would be able restricting some API endpoints usage to specific allowed server ip.
Next.js allows dynamically both things as well.
As alternative I have a guess to invent some scheme with temporally issued tokens... But all my scheme ideas I can break really easily so far.
Any options? If SSR is my only choice, what would you recommend as best option in already chosen Django and not decided fully front-end framework?
I have the most crazy idea to put some CSR frontend framework literally into my django backend and making initial SSR from it. The only thing its missing... my lack of skills how to use React, but perhaps I have enough time to get a hang of it.
SSRed frontend can be protected with captcha means at least.16 -
What do I need to know to transition from a frontend developer, to a full stack developer?
Right now I am using AngularJS (I know, very old) at my work and we are transitioning to either React or Angular. My goal is to pickup back end tasks so I can eventually become a full-stack developer. What do I need to do to get there?4 -
Frontend devs (of any variety):
Do any of you create your own illustrations, animations, etc for the products you create, or is this handled by designers?
At my current place (app and web agency) we leave it all to the designers, but my manager said that at the last few places they'd been (all web agencies), the frontend developers did that stuff themselves4 -
So, I told the interviewer that my frontend skills are bad. He said that I should not worry as the tests where backend centered, good. Later, I got the job, now the interviewer, which happens to be the head of tech in the company I work for, has assigned me two tasks involving 99% of work on the frontend.
FFS, I've been searching on Internet and reading Kendo UI documentation for 4 hours to figure how to trigger the KendoGrid editable popup with populated data to enable the user to update such data. AAAAARGH!!!1 -
Has anyone experience with Frontend Testing and can suggest something good?
Note: JavaScript / Node JS3 -
Frontend shananigans continue:
Spent all morning un-ejecting my CRA react app and migrating sass to less... Seriously how is this productive?? -
That moment when a backend dev starts messing with frontend and says "It's just a f.ckin CSS!!" Well, fullstack thing is a myth...2
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when your application works everywhere, in every situation, for every user, EXCEPT on the fucking device and user of the new Board Member....
...fuck fuck fuck.
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Hello all,
I might be moving to England soon and I'm a drop-out. I have been coding for 5+ years and have quite an amount of experience in my hands. What courses should I consider that can boost my ability to find a job in England? Devops? Backend? Frontend? App Dev? Game Dev? I am interested and have a minor experience in DevOps, main bulk of my experience is in backend, a bit of frontend(not my field but its still coding) the other two i've had no experience in other then debugging and fixing code in several projects i've worked on.
Your help is much appreciated. Thank you.11 -
Just wanted to say that netlify is so nice. Just 4 clicks and you continuously deploy your Frontend from a git repo. Even free for personal use 👌2
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I find it unfair how many talented frontend developers get assigned to backend-only/focused positions. This is a sign of bad management that sees developers as code monkeys rather than talent.8
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As a frontend developer, I started learn unreal engine 4 in my spare time instead of build next js framework. I found C++ is very difficult in unreal project, even with the experience of building deep neural network for robot soccer back in university🤔
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What web frontend library or framework do you recommend for the majority of web development projects and why?
Let's say you are a freelancer and you get all sorts of web dev jobs all the time from all sorts of customers.
Is there a go-to library for you, or is it "it depends" as all things CS are?3 -
I'm trying to load an SVG icon sprite file in a Webpack based application. It's been almost three hours with no success.
This is why I hate frontend development. Libraries are not structured and make no sense. It's a game of luck.7 -
My head is about to explode... Trying to wrap my head around the best way for integrating a suitable frontend solution with a symfony backend.
So many implications, so many opinions, so many possibilities.. A very big project, a lot of requirements, a very small team and most of the colleagues have their main focus on backend development though..
Feeling lost currently, not really sure how to approach this huge topic 😥4 -
@ Frontend devs:
Did you see Moon.js framework?
It's a very sad framework although i am not sure why it feels so Angular-ish vue.
But at least they are trying
What do you think5 -
what's up with backend devs getting on rants about frontend frameworks? Don't they use frameworks for developing their precious servers? or do they just write the whole thing from scratch?
Shit tards, frontend development is evolving and for the better, we've got awesome frameworks that help us reduce the amount of code we need to write to attain a functionality and in a way that reduces headaches when building a large application and gives superb consistent performance because the code has been production tested a million times! yeah you can use js to build a frontend because its JS it's what it was designed to do, but tell me how reinventing the wheel everytime you make a frontend is useful, and how that is maintainable in the long run when building a large production frontend?
The modern frameworks, help us write modular and reusable components that can be shared and used by anyone for any of their application. They are arming the web with capabilities that are close to what native apps offer and still you keep bitching about it.1 -
Can't operate in normal conditions, hmmm... These airplane media systems really need someone to come in and change the game. Linux stack, nice, but most obviously some Linux frontend? 🤔 Although, this is satellite, my rant remains the same! Need to change the game!
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This week I started developing my first serious backend for a customer using node and graph ql, and I'm here as a Frontend Developer. But I have to say I like it. Using Vue.js with axios on Frontend side. Everything feels so intuitiv during coding.1
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Dear frontend dev,
if you can't check whether a variable is defined or not, why do i have to change the back end to accept urlparam='undefined' as valid and replace it with your default value in my backend? Why are you afraid of 40X's? You should be interested in the bugs of your code.
It feels awful to have a middleware in place catching all errors and replacing them with empty 200 responses 😭. All of this because you don't fucking ensure your variables exist before use.3 -
As a junior frontend dev should I rather work in a web agency or in a biggee company that needs a frontend dev for their software?
I would really like to join a web agency but it seems like only small agencies with shit conditions would hire me...1 -
"We need to refactor THIS section of the Frontend because BE wants to implement THAT - we will agree the new structure, and we will migrate the previous structure"
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College writes a API documentation. Refuses do use markdown or simple HTML. We need to use a custom php class.
Each paragraph is a protected function with an array of multiple languages (never gets translated anyway...)
Drupal developers...
I'm a frontend developer maybe i'm missing the point, can someone enlighten me please.1 -
I got an assignment grom a company I interviewed in to make a simple CRUD app using Node and vue.js.
I have already built the entire server(it even serves html and static files now) but I'm a noob regarding frontend web.
I tried to use webpack and scaffolding tools but they make the job much more complicated than it needs to be.
How do I build a frontend in Vue using only the tags and local files, no special bundlers or tools?2 -
That moment when you get started as a junior frontend and end up having to design a couple databases. I dont know shit about that. 😱 also in between I happen to become sort of unofficial IT staff in this music school. I'm confused. Not a proper rant, but just wtf? At least I'm getting money... someday. Maybe. 😲
At least I'll have my voice and piano lessons covered. 🌟2 -
Our lead frontend dev insists on using <select> as a dropdown for a language switcher in the navbar of a website and then make the page redirect to the localized url using the onChange event with JS.
Am I wrong thinking that's just really, really dumb, or am I just dumb?3 -
Question time, i currently have a project in beginning stages. I has a node-js back-end build with express and sequelize. My current frontend is build in twig. And is within the back-end project structure. Now i have heard that the current hype is to take those separate. What is the best approach, and what frontend should i use? (I was thinking vue as interesting thing)
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Calling out to all frontend devs:
What's your opinion on CSS in JS (e.g. styled-components)?
I really like the encapsulation and the ease of use but I don't like how it makes debugging more difficult.1 -
I ve made 9 pug templates for 8 responsive pages and use ssr to render all pages' innerHTML content configured & controlled by a remote configure center during this week. Totally worn out.
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Guys which release of MacBook would be good for me as a Frontend Developer, And is it okay to get a MacBook air ?!13
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Can you even call yourself a frontend dev when you betray your backend mindset by prefering JS over CSS and JSX over HTML + DOM API?3
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Has anybody worked on ipfs implementing on client side?
Client side i mean ionic app.
any thoughts about running server side (node js) code in frontend (ionic - typescript) ? -
Me: I hate our current graphing frontend, its super hard to do anything more complex in here and it looks like it was made in the last century, we need a more modern solution!
Also me: Uuuugh, this modern graphing frontend lags my browser soooo much!
Why is dealing with graphs so hard? D:1 -
Is it wrong of me to want to learn technologies like GraphQL, databases, Nest.js, and other backend related technologies without having solid HTML, CSS, and JavaScript knowledge? I've been working with Node.js and Express.js for a couple years now but really want to dive into more of whats possible on the backend but I never felt interested to learn the frontend. I do have some very basic knowledge of HTML, CSS, and JavaScript, but I feel I couldn't pass a technical interview related to them. I just find the backend so much more interesting and fun to work with over the frontend.3
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So far in my IT class, we have been going through alot of boring html and css. I am so looking forward starting to use php, and getting into the backend development. What do you guys like the most? Frontend or backend?9
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!rant What do you do as a frontend developer? Where is the line between backend and frontend in your company?1
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The the frontend for mesos' chronos is soooo incredibly slow. With its rest-api looking for job names and starting jobs manually is feasible, but gosh, somebody committed a crime there. (Maybe one is also not supposed to have about 500 jobs in there but that's another issue.)
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Complete (finished) configuration of an enterprise java web application: pom.xml
Default boilerplate configuration of an Angular 2 app: about 20 files.
Does anyone know of a frontend framework/platform that I can easily couple with my Spring Data REST backend?5 -
I want to learn front-end and i have offers of two bootcamps.please tell me which is better one-month or frontend-masters.
Note: i don't know anything about front-end1 -
I’m not good at frontend and I’ve accepted that but it’s frustrating because I just am not good at making things look good and I hate spending the time on the looks when I want to just go have fun with the back end.
I will say though getting it to look the way I want is super satisfying as well.
Any advice or resources?2 -
Guys , i need help about frontend framework and seo
which is the best frotend framework that work good with SEO ?5 -
I really want to divide this frontend into two parts, one that faces the users and other for administrators so I can release changes on both without works on one part blocking the other, but, I have many question, like, how do I manage authentication in two different React projects from one login page?
Maybe there are more problems than benefits, what do you think?3
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