I know it wasn't ethical, but I had to do it.

Semester 4 started this week, we all got to vote which day we wanted the lecture to be held on. There were quite a few options. My preference was Monday at 7:30pm.

So I entered the poll, as I have every other semester. But I noticed something, this particular poll didn't require any form of identification. Not even a Student ID.

I dug deeper, found that it used local cookies to store weather you'd voted or not, this is obviously a security problem, so I opened up Python and wrote a simple Selenium program to automate this process.

I called it the "Vote Smasher". First it would open the webpage, then it would choose Monday 7:30pm and vote. Then it would clear it's cookies, refresh and do it over again.

I ran it fifty times.

Can you guess what the revealed vote was for UCD SP4 IT was?

I heard my lecturer mutter:
"The votes aren't usually this slanted..."

I could hardly contain my giggles.
My vote won by about fifty over the others 😂

Let me just say, it was his fault for choosing such a naive poll system in the first place 😉

Fuck yeah.

Last year our government voted out new mass surveillance law through like it was nothing AND with a huge amount of votes in favor and hardly any against. (remember that the government is *supposed* to represent the people of the country)

A few students made a referendum happen, 48 percent of our people came to vote for this.

The first exit poll results are about 50/50!

I'm happy as fuck, damn!

Sorry for this slightly political posts and if this entirely violates all terms, I'll remove it. I thought this fits, though, because of what this new law.

Experience that made me feel like a dev badass?

Users requested the ability to 'send' information from one application to another. Couple of our senior devs started out saying it would be impossible (there is no way to pass objects across a machine's memory boundary), then entertained the idea of utilizing the various messaging frameworks such as Microsoft's ServiceBus and RabbitMQ, but came up with a plan to use 2 WebAPI services (one messenger, one receiver) along with a homegrown messaging API (the clients would 'poll' the services looking for message) because ServiceBus, RabbitMQ, etc might not be able to scale to our needs. Their initial estimates were about 6 months development for the two services, hardware requirement for two servers, MSSQL server licenses, and padded an additional 6 months for client modifications. Very...very proud of their detailed planning.

I thought ...hmmm...I've done memory maps and created simple TCP/IP hosts that could send messages back and forth between other apps (non-UI), WPF couldn't be that much different.

In an afternoon, I came up with this (see attached), and showed the boss. Guess which solution we're going with.

The two devs are still kinda pissed at me. One still likes say as I walk in the room "our hero returns"....frack him.

Windows obviously did a secret selective poll on what percentage of their users use dates and times.
:#

I really fucking hate when people or companies do shit like this..

Apparently Google is changing the salad emoji, which is a bowl that contains lettuce, tomato, egg, onion and stuff like that, to the same, but without the egg.

Why you may ask?
Well.. they did it to "make it a more inclusive vegan salad".
ITS JUST SOME WHITE PIXELS FOR FUCKS SAKE. How would any vegan, besides the crazy ones, be upset about a moist egg in their crisp salad?

I cant even.. im out of words.. fuck.

Additionally, the news page i read it on have been so kind to host a poll of what people think about it, whether its a good idea or not.

Ill let the image speak for itself, if you really need a translation, dont use google translate, ask in the comments.

"please use a secure password*"

* But don't make it too secure, 20 Charakters is enough.

Why would you fucking do this? The only reason I can think about is a scenario like this:
"How do we store the passwords in the database?"
"Just like anything else?"
"So I create a VARCHAR(20)?"
"Yeah why not? It's good enough for a name, and you shouldn't use your or anyone else's name as a password, so it should be perfect"

What Keeps u awake all night
(When u have to complete a project overnight)
1. Cigarette?
2.Weed?
3. Coffee?
4. Tea?
5. Redbull?
6. Beer?
7. Glucose? (As in my case 😛)
8. Anything else?

My favorite languages are
1. Python (3)
2. PHP
3. JavaScript
4. Ruby
5. Java

Honorable mention: C++

Can anyone agree?

Why doesn't DevRant have a poll option? I am sure it will be useful to a lot of ranters 😊

When talking about devRant, which terminology do you use for ++s?

A: Plus pluses
B: Plus ones
C: Upvotes
D: Likes

Am I the only one who still uses a 5 yo Android smartphone as its main device?

Poll: How do you use git?
Command line?
GitHub Desktop?
3rd party app? (which one)

I use command line almost exclusively.

!Poll
I'm curious about where the user base is centered geographically, so...

Where is everyone based?

I'm from Sweden :)

OnePlus, first their price grow constantly closer to other companies prices, second when you make a poll to know if you should keep the headphones jack, the community says you should, and then make a phone without one... well you should have expected the backlash

Informal poll: how often do you find yourself looking up trivial things, even if you're a seasoned vet? I know I do almost every day.

If you had to use one laptop for programming on a daily basis and nothing else, which one would you choose? And I'm talking about to work and back home, and you can't use another monitor either.

The GPD pocket windows or the Acer Predator?

Obviously I'm not getting any of those. I'm just curious.

Someone as scrawny as me probably won't be able to carry the Acer Predator, and it discriminates against lefties. The pocket windows is too small for anything, but it is adorable.

Let's have a poll here. What do you use?

1.PC
2.Mac
3.Linux

Man I wish we could have here some kind of poll - you know to ask a question and see what people think.
It will be kinda awesome
think about it guys

Created a poll to chose which side project to carry on during holidays, came up with a new one instead.

Story of my life.

[YYYY]-[MM]-[DD] or [DD]-[MM]-[YYYY]

Across all dashboards and clients we have in current company you'll find one of the above,
Every developer who ever worked on part of the system have chosen either one..

So it's a total mess,
In an attempt to standard all date formats across all our clients I setup a Slack poll,

And guess which one is winning by more than 2x votes!!
[DD]-[MM]-[YYYY] !!!

And here I thought ISO-8601 is enough reason,
But apparently not!

They say our users are more familiar with the other one,,,

It seems main problem is with the education system of this country,
That's how they were thought in schools,

So... FUCK WORLD'S STANDARDS

My last job before going freelance. It started as great startup, but as time passed and the company grew, it all went down the drain and turned into a pretty crappy culture.

Once one of the local "darling" startups, it's now widely known in the local community for low salaries and crazy employee churn.

Management sells this great "startup culture", but reality is wildly different. Not sure if the management believes in what the are selling, or if they know they are selling BS.

- The recurring motto of "Work smarter, not harder" is the biggest BS of them all. Recurring pressure to work unpaid overtime. Not overt, because that's illegal, but you face judgement if you don't comply, and you'll eventually see consequences like lack of raises, or being passed for promotions in favour of less competent people that are willing to comply.

- Expectation management is worse than non-existent. Worse, because they actually feed expectations they have no intention of delivering on. (I.e, career progression, salary bumps and so on)

- Management is (rightfully) proud of hiring talented people, but then treat almost everyone like they're stupid.

- Feedback is consistently ignored.

- Senior people leave. Replace them with cheap juniors. Promote the few juniors that stay for more than 12 months to middle-management positions and wonder where things went wrong.

- People who rock the boat about the bad culture or the shitty stunts that management occasionally pulls get pushed out.

- Get everyone working overtime for a week to setup a venue for a large event, abroad, while you have everyone in bunk rooms at the cheapest hostel you could find and you don't even cover all meal expenses. No staff hired to setup the venue, so this includes heavy lifting of all sorts. Fly them on the cheapest fares, ensuring nobody gets a direct flight and has a good few hours of layover. Fly them on the weekend, to make sure nobody is "wasting time" travelling during work hours. Then call this a team building.

This is a tech recruitment company that makes a big fuss about how tech recruitment is broken and toxic...
Also a company that wants to use ML and AI to match candidates to jobs and build a sophisticated product, and wanted a stronger "Engineering culture" not so long ago. Meanwhile:

- Engineering is shoved into the back seat. Major company and product decisions made without input from anyone on the engineering side of things, including the product roadmaps.

- Product lead is an inexperienced kid with zero tech background -> Promote him to also manage the developers as part of the product team while getting rid of your tech lead.

- Dev team is essentially seen by management as an assembly line for features. Dev salaries are now well below market average, and they wonder why it's hard to recruit good devs. (Again, this is a tech recruitment company)

What other profession would you compare developer to?

Am I nice, should I share with the team...? 😅😅

!rant

Do you folks listen to podcasts? What are your favorite ones? The ones I listen to weekly are Geekrant, Linux Gamecast Weekly, and Linux Weekly Daily Wednesdays (done by the LGC group). I'm looking for more tech related ones, though.

Websites with annoying ads that hold your phones browser hostage to install a fake AV or vote in a stupid poll.

Tip: Never add an execution (PHP for example) script as a bookmark in your browser..

Your browser will occasionally poll the saved URL to update the favicon or sync to the server or something like that, which triggers the script without you knowing...

Serious Question/Poll

Imagine a job where instead of a worker, you're a partner. Hold on, I know that sounds markety...

Let's say instead of an employee, you're basically like a free agent. The company has a pool of projects that are approved to develop, and you can pick what project and what team to work on. More than that, you can even choose how much you want to work on it, and get paid accordingly in ownership stake of said project (on top of your base salary)

What if you were encouraged to submit your own ideas about everything, and that feedback is instantly public, before anyone (management) can water it down, take credit, or worse, suppress it entirely.

What if you could work from anywhere, home, not home, middle of the ocean, whatever.

Plus, we give you a budget to buy your own pc/mac whatever. As long as you can code on it, we don't give a shit.

Also, foosball and ping pong, beer, coffee, cool work environment and all that kind of shit too.

Paid training, for even whimsical new technology, in fact, especially so.

Want to do agile, fine, hate it? fine, just find the team and project that does what you want.

What else am I missing?

If you use software buttons, which side do you prefer your back button on?

Just talked to a guy who codes microcontrolers in assembler. He wants to use a raspberry pi as an interface device between TCP and Serial port. He asked me how fast that would run over internet and I told him that it depends on the connection an other things it takes at least some milli secs to transmit.
He is like:
What the fuck do you mean milli secs?
I poll data on my 20 mhz controler every like micro sec or so and that Pi got 1Ghz.

Me like: Yea go fucking code that shit on your own with ASM.

First company I worked for, overall it was a good experience, but at one point they promoted a consultant to project manager, and their planning skills were about as good as their people skills, which is to say, appalling.

We had a project update for a huge client, that required, for political BS reasons, that most of the team spend several weeks on-site, 300km away from home.
Go-live was approaching, and the plan was: migration starts Friday night, shortly after midnight (so actually, Saturday) once the client’s IT confirms DB is backed up. Expected duration: 5 hours.

- So, you expect me to work from midnight to 5am on Saturday? And when do we start working on Friday?

- 9am, of course.

- 9am!? So you actually planned a 20 hour work day? (Note: legal maximum here is 10 hours in a day, 40 a week)

- And we have to be there on Saturday 1pm to recheck everything is running smooth.

wtaf were they thinking?

*WILD THOUGHT*

Whom would you provide your personal info for?

The ISPs or VPN Provider?

!Rant
Finally my quest is complete! I have joined the sticker club!

Vote now! What's your favorite devRant sticker?

Use ++ to vote for ':/ devRant';
Use ++ to vote for ':/ bubble';
Use ++ to vote for 'new Rant("fml")';

In all seriousness though, what's your favorite sticker in your collection?

Anyone care to show off their collection?

Share in the comments.

I think that two criterias are important:

- don't block my productivity
- author should have his userbase in mind

1) Some simple anti examples:

- Windows popping up a big fat blue screen screaming for updates. Like... Go suck some donkey balls you stupid shit that's totally irritating you arsehole.
- Graphical tools having no UI concept. E.g. Adobes PDF reader - which was minimalized in it's UI and it became just unbearable pain. When the concept is to castrate the user in it's abilities and call the concept intuitive, it's not a concept it's shit. Other examples are e.g. GEdit - which was severely massacred in Gnome 3 if I remember correctly (never touched Gnome ever again. I was really put off because their concept just alienated me)
- Having an UI concept but no consistency. Eg. looking at a lot of large web apps, especially Atlassian software.
Too many times I had e.g. a simple HTML form. In menu 1 you could use enter. In menu 2 Enter does not work. in another menu Enter works, but it doesn't submit the form it instead submits the whole page... Which can end in clusterfuck.
Yaaayyyy.
- Keyboard usage not possible at all.
It becomes a sad majority.... Pressing tab, not switching between form fields. Looking for keyboard shortcuts, not finding any. Yes, it's a graphical interface. But the charm of 16 bit interfaces (YES. I'm praising DOS interfaces) was that once you memorized the necessary keyboard strokes... You were faster than lightning. Ever seen e.g. a good pharmacist, receptionist or warehouse clerk... most of the software is completely based on short keyboard strokes, eg. for a receptionist at a doctor for the ICD code / pharmaceutical search et cetera.
- don't poop rainbows. I mean it.
I love colors. When they make sense. but when I use some software, e.g. netdata, I think an epilepsy warning would be fair. Too. Many. Neon. Colors. -.-

2) It should be obvious... But it's become a burden.

E.g. when asked for a release as there were some fixes... Don't point to the install from master script. Maybe you like it rolling release style - but don't enforce it please. It's hard to use SHA256 hash as a version number and shortening the hash might be a bad idea.

Don't start experiments. If it works - don't throw everything over board without good reasons. E.g. my previous example of GEdit: Turning a valuable text editor into a minimalistic unusable piece of crap and calling it a genius idea for the sake of simplicity... Nope. You murdered a successful product.
Gnome 3 felt like a complete experiment and judging from the last years of changes in the news it was an rather unsuccessful one... As they gave up quite a few of their ideas.

When doing design stuff or other big changes make it a community event or at least put a poll up on the github page. Even If it's an small user base, listen to them instead of just randomly fucking them over.
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One of my favorite projects is a texteditor called Kate from KDE.

It has a ton of features, could even be seen as a small IDE. The reason I love it because one of the original authors still cares for his creation and ... It never failed me. I use Kate since over 20 years now I think... Oo

Another example is the git cli. It's simple and yet powerful. git add -i is e.g. a thing I really really really love. (memorize the keyboard shortcuts and you'll chunk up large commits faster than flash.

Curl. Yes. The (http) download tool. It's author still cares. It's another tool I use since 20 years. And it has given me a deep insight of how HTTP worked, new protocols and again. It never failed me. It is such a fucking versatile thing. TLS debugging / performance measurements / what the frigging fuck is going on here. Take curl. Find it out.

My worst enemies....

Git based clients. I just hate them. Mostly because they fill the niche of explaining things (good) but completely nuke the learning of git (very bad). You can do any git action without understanding what you do and even worse... They encourage bad workflows.
I've seen great devs completely fucking up git and crying because they had really no fucking clue what git actually does. The UI lead them on the worst and darkest path imaginable. :(

Atlassian products. On the one hand... They're not total shit. But the mass of bugs and the complete lack of interest of Atlassian towards their customers and the cloud movement.... Ouch. Just ouch.

I had to deal with a lot of completely borked up instances and could trace it back to a bug tracking entry / atlassian, 2 - 3 years old with the comment: vote for this, we'll work on a Bugfix. Go fuck yourself you pisswads.

Microsoft Office / Windows. Oh boy.
I could fill entire days of monologues.
It's bad, hmkay?

XEN.
This is not bad.
This is more like kill it before it lays eggs.
The deeper I got into XEN, the more I wanted to lay in a bathtub full of acid to scrub of the feelings of shame... How could anyone call this good?!?????

Pink theme?

Let's do a poll.
➕➕ only if your language of choice is:

Picture a small product team, the dev side of it has 1 tech lead, 1 recently promoted senior dev, 1 junior dev.

1 - Offer your tech lead a severance package
2 - Hire a mid-level and a junior dev
3 - Give the product lead role to someone in their mid-20s that has no tech or project management background
4 - ???

The next 6 months are going to be interesting ones...

devrant should have a poll feature, I'd love to do some here

Need to get some time again, to fix the current problems with the scripts I did so far and then would want to add a script for people to embed polls into rants, which has been a thing people seem to want for a while

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In case somebody actually visits the strawpoll link from the rant text, you're going to be disappointed, it's exactly what's on the picture lol

What is your opinion on hopping from one language to another?

So far I have been programming for a little over a year and have used Python, Lua, Javascript amd C++, planning on trying Java in the very near future.
I've had quite a positive experience with switching languages so far, especially when starting out. Some concepts I wouldn't understand, but after seeing them from a perspective of a different language I finally got it. Do you think it's good to know a lot of languages, or in the long run is it better to master one?

I have a feature suggestion for devrant: some kind of polling system.
This idea came into my mind with the survey a few days ago.
Since almost all of us are devs, aspiring or experienced, we can expect (somewhat) professional opinions, e.g. on how to tackle a specific problem.
Maybe it's even possible to make this a paid service somehow. I thought about this:

Open a poll for all registered users: $0
Add requirements for a user to have to be able to vote on the poll: +0.99$ each:
- has ranted at least X times
- has at least X ++s
- has a StackOverflow account connected
...

This way, the OP can narrow down the target audience to a specific group.

Maybe...? I don't know if something like this already exists somewhere else.

Based on @darksideofyay "poll feature" request I made a simple bot to make them.

Just post this as a comment:
@PollBot Q: <Your question>?
A:
- <Answer 1>
- <Answer 2>

// Up to 10 answers
It will post a comment for each answer, just upvote the one you like (look at the upvotes to see the result of the poll).

P.S. It's not ideal and it's running on a mini PC in my house, so it could fail sometimes. :P

@dfox - a poll post type would be awesome

A simple poll

Let's say there is a program or whatever sort of thing that does the exact same thing except the gui...

1. A shitty gui with default buttons, etc but with ok paddings and margins so that it is a bit usable (if it is a web app, no css) -- 5MB

2. A super cool 1337 h4X0R looking gui with awesome animations -- 100MB

What is your choice?

Just a little poll for you guys :)

Do you comment your code during the development or when it's done?

Do you keep track of the documentation during the development or after?

Do you use Git only for source control or also to work from multiple places and keep the code up to date?

Do you sh*tcode on purpose (or don't make any effort to clean it) when it's not for yourself, or not for something you value much?

If you have any other strange habit, feel free to mention it :)

What's your worst experience with "not invented here syndrome"?

In the recent past I've been dealing with custom made JS datepickers, autocomplete boxes and various other widgets that were purpose made for some feature. Almost every single widget the app uses is built from scratch.

Now there are new features that need these widgets to behave differently, and needless to say, none were built with customisation or extendability in mind.

Hardly shocking, I know, but I'm the one that has to spend several hours to get these widgets to work for the new features instead of using some of the many open-source, tested, mature and customisable solutions that are out there.

Random poll:

If you have pets, do you own a cat or a dog?

A colleague has a personal statistic that says most developers have cats rather than dogs.
Just checking her data!

I was teaching this girl today how to make a poll in slack and her computer was so sloooow. I started fixing her pc and she was really happy about it

I'm thinking about creating a "poll" in devRant. So then everybody could participate in the poll instead of posting the choice as a comment
@dfox please consider this in future updates

1. Do you work on the weekends?
2. Are you getting paid for it?

Got a new laptop, but it was not properly working, so while waiting for it to get replaced, I have to use the old one again.

Feels like the CPU is a freaking potato!

Who decides the question of the week? its 100 weeks of devrant i guess, this monday.
@dfox Should have a party and poll on it

Hey, fellow devranters, there is a major update to the devBanner project, but before releasing it, we (or I) would like to ask you, fellow devranters, a question, or a simple poll.

Do you think white font is better in yellow bg? Or should we change to black font?

Leave your opinion !!!!

To see the sample pic, see the section below.

Thanks!

Forgive me devLords, for I have sinned.

Today, I took while() loop and made it true, it was a dirty ordeal, however it's not entirely my fault, you see the api I called doesn't have a webhook of any kind and doesn't return results in real time either, you have to poll for them..... so here I am writing while(true){} to poll for results that could take seconds or even hours to finish.

😟

Who has too much time on their hands and wants a throwaway project? :)

Say there are some poll results. Like this one. Each item has xx.yy% of all the votes. The task would be to come up with an algorythm that would read in those results and make a few predictments on how many participants were in this poll :)

I don't need it, I just came up with it and thought it might be a fun project for someone. I know I'd go for it if I had free time on my hands :)

P.S. if you're up for it, sharing a solution code is more than welcome!

Along with weekly rant topics, devRant should have weekly polls where you create a poll on opinionated questions like "bash or zsh?". Devs would upvote one & post a rant why they prefer one over the other.

With lots of devs here, the opinions of experienced devs would really help young buds. @dfox

DevRant poll time!

Do you prefer dark phones or white phones?

Backstory:

Getting the Google Pixel 2 XL and can't choice between Panada and the black version. Also idc about the screen not being vibrant.

if (a == 0 && b == 0) {}

or

if (a + b == 0) {}

What do you think is more readable? Is there any (performance) difference in the compiled programme?

For a and b >= 0.

Just a quick poll here to anyone who does a lot of programming, which IDE do you use? Do you prefer almost paper coding with little or no extensions or features or a full blown solution such as Eclipse?

Found this gem while searching for some poll data about the apocalypse

!rant

just a poll i'm looking for from all the linux based dev's

What distro would you recommend for a front end dev? Tried ubuntu but the wifi driver wasnt supported I guess in my dev machine. Currently looking at Elementary OS, but still undecided. I would primarily like it to be Debian based or something close as I'm very familiar with apt-get debain based stuff, and dont really feel like learning an entirely new distro at them moment.

Thanks all :D

PS. I have a Lenovo Ideapad 110
Specs include quad-core AMD A-8, 8gb ram, 1TB HDD, can give more if necessary

Netflix and YouTube Music, and whatever paid, are missing an important part of the fun.

...

Comment sections

POLL:

light? Or dark?

Poll: I see a lot of Windows users here, naturally as it's the dominant OS. I do wonder how many of you dev's that would be willing to accept lower compensation in exchange for instead working in Linux?

Ads on youtube,
Pop up Ads on games,
Ads on torrent sites,
Pop up Ads on porn pages,

There are people who are happy that they get money out of them,

And, there are People who think it is unfair to have so much ads.

Which person are you?

Anyone else struggle to not just switch off when the business jargon starts?

Newbie here, how long did it take you to get a good handle in the language you code in (that pays your bills)?

So, after reading a post I started wondering...
Would you prefer to work in a toxic environment but have a good salary or work in a good environment for minimum wage?

I'm in the second position right now.

Frontend vs Backend
Management vs Tech

Who win...

I choose Backend and Tech

Is the term for some who uses Linux spelled Linuxer, Linuxxer, egotistical fucker, or something else?

I would like to call out the moron who decided to control docker through HTTP when the maximum time the server can take to finish the task is longer than the HTTP timeout.
If you expect things might time out, you don't use a HTTP request. You use a resource and poll it, or Websockets, or possibly SSE.
Shoehorning your API into a frame that obviously doesn't fit doesn't help anyone. Just admit that you don't know what HTTP is and use a regular TCP socket with regular pings.

Is it common to be told by HR after an interview that they aren't following up with an offer, then poll you about your experience with the interview, and act like they did you a favor by granting you the opportunity to interview with them? Because if so, I think I am done with software.

Which OS do you use?
Windows, MacOS, a distro of Linux, or some other OS?

!rant && POLL

A lot of people are asking for poll feature. There have been many debates. While reading those, I even thought we should probably ask a debate feature before poll.

Anyway you can actually create poll rant. Just gotta be creative and a bit organized like adults (hope we all are).

1) you ask your poll question as rant
2) you enter your poll choices as comments
3) people ++ their favorite choice comment (s)

Of course this is not a poll-poll feature so there are many lacking functions. But at least it works to certain extent.

Eg Question : What is your OS?

Would you rather make every software you want but give up coding, or keep coding but always for somebody else's project?

Quick poll: Where did you hear about dev rant?

Poll:

Besides devRant, reddit or 4chan? Why?

Poll: Angular vs. Ember vs. Backbone vs. your preferred front-end JS library?

Let's have a poll about $$$.

Vote and add other options if you like in the Comments

If you are a FastHub (github client for android) user, leave a comment!

!poll

wich music genre are you listening to while programming or do you prefer silence ?

me: hip hop in my native language

If you had a choice, what environment would you prefer for programming [and why]?

- home
- outdoors, nature
- caffee, library, etc
- office
- [other?]

You're the interviewer, you have two candidates and can only ask one question. What would you ask?

Was checking poll suddenly JavaScript wanted to play hide and seek.

!rant
What can you expect to earn at your first IT/dev job in your country (e.g. junior dev after graduating)?

What do seniors usually get?

Poll: camelCase or snake_case?

What is youre favorite keyboard on the phone ?
Mine : Hackers keyboard

During the company's Xmas event, we were off-site at a place that does events to do a team-building event followed by dinner party.

An error report came up, it wasn't a showstopper, but it was fairly serious, and the perfect excuse to sit out the BS improv team-building exercises that the powers that be thought would be a good idea to have.

Probably my favorite bug ever.

I'm intrigued, what are you all trying to learn in your spare time and how?

I'll go first, brushing up on maths by reading K A Stroud advanced engineering mathematics.

He's got an intro level book that's also very good.

IDEs vs Text Editors? Wanted to get your opinions.

IDE- code suggestion(auto completion), easier to configure build options

Text editors- minimalistic and...?

{Poll} What's your preferred browser in #Linux?

a) Firefox
b) Chrome/Chromium
c) Opera
d) Vivaldi
e) Others (Add in comments below)

Poll: how do you manage Git?
A) CLI
B) GUI

My answer: A
Tally: A:1 B:0

let poll = "favorite dev podcast";

Read about first Android Go device launch will happen lately this month.
Read about restrictions for Android Go section in Google Play.
" - RAM usage less than 50Mb"
With removed Google Maps (they decided to replace with something lighter later) and without stripping functionality app barely fits 64Mb.
With Google Maps it takes 150-200Mb.
Gave up.
Today found Google Maps Go apk.
It's fucking PWA wrapped in apk.
Fucking awesome.

Poll: Go in Android Go stands for...
- Go fuck yourself
- Go learning web development
- Go writing 100 shitapps per second, all with one button

Dev poll: how long does it take your team to deploy a release and how often do you release?

Chrome likes to count teleporting goats, Android tests if the user is a monkey. I like to put "void fish(object look)" in my code and throw the fish where ever I wanna test something.

What are some interesting functions you've added to your code? Has another dev caught your function yet? (mine hasn't been caught yet, yay!)

Kinda funny, the company I work for, has around 1k followers on linkedIn. The only interactions it has on any posts is either from 1 or 2 sales people & 2 founders. Any poll they do on Linkedin has maximum 3 votes

Poll: do you think everyone, especially managers, should read The Phoenix Project?

My personal opinion: yes... They need to understand the horrors from unplanned work and how to prevent it... I'm getting really tired of checking up after people...

Poll

What's your favorite programming language? (For any project)

I basically hate anything that IDEs aren't smart to fix typos.

- JavaScript, but usually not TypeScript
- Python
- SQL, mostly.

Best laptops for mobile devs? I personally love my Surface Pro 2 its been a little workhorse and does everything I need besides booting from a flash drive. But I wanna know the communities favorite laptop.

//poll = !rant;
If you could deliver one technology to the year 1950, what would it be?

When you have both Windows, macOS and Linux, keyboard layout is in the way.

There must be a simple, reliable, compatible, battery efficient way to poll an api every ten minutes and send user a notification, right?

AlarmManager : Ok. But who cares about battery anyways?

Google cloud messaging : Ok, you can have battery efficiency. But who lives without Google anyways?

JobScheduler : Ok, but you need Lollipop. Which Android phone doesn't get updates? Oh wait, shit.

quick poll:
dual monitors or 1 ultra wide for coding

POLL:
What do you call .gif files?

1. gif
2. jif

Poll time/input requested. Multiple assignments in one statement: yay or nay? For a (painfully) simple example:

a = b = true;
vs.
a = true;
b = true;

!rant

Many out there say you should use 2 factor authentication with everything, but personally i feel lile that would just turn your phone into a sigle point of failure.
Phisical security is my primary worry, because loosing your phone or having it stolen yould pretty much lock you out of all your accounts.
Another thing is i don't know as much about android security, and i wouldn't be confortable managing it.

I have 2FA active for some key services, but imho a strong password is usually enough. I think its far more more importat for your overall security to avoid passwords re-use.

What do you think? Do you have 2FA on all the time?

Why no polls...
We want to count votes!!! @dfox

Hey hey hey, stupid poll time! Yay!
Okay it's only the second one but let me dream

If you had one of each thing that makes your dev life what it is, which one would you pick?

Let me explain a bit: I mean IDE, drinks, language, coworker, project... If you had to keep ONE think in each "category" of your job, what would they be?

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Mine would be:

JavaScript (I know some others are better, it's just my most fluent one), Atom IDE, Orangina (drink, for the ones not knowing) and my most powerful laptop out of the two. Those would be the things I'd keep if I had to.

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Please don't bash me on my crappy question, I'm just wondering >.<

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Which one do you use¿ And wheres poll bot :'

Out of curiosity, how many years of PROFESSIONAL experience do people have on here. I’m assuming it’s quite diverse but skewed towards those at junior to mid-level for some reason. Just put a number down. I’ll start.

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My school did that and it helped firing the worse teachers I got :

A simple poll on every course taught during the three year.

[Gonna be surely a long rant since some testimony below]
The previous prom before us got a teacher that went nuts, like the first and only lesson classes was like "Okay so if you don't understand my lessons, you get out. I don't want any question." I'm not kidding.
So since he wanted to teach researching stuff, they had only 4 hours of lessons, and the other classes were to research.
At the exam, he went nuts again and were saying people did shit, saying that they are shit, etc.
Worse is, if you happen to have to do a catch up examen with him, you had to implement in 4 hours a program that took at least 20 hours of research.

But at the end of the year, students got asked with a poll how each classes of the year went. All the prom gave the feedback that was deserved.

The next year, wiht my prom, the teacher was extremely kind with us, but we all knew that was because his job was compromised. (And if I'm not wrong, he doesn't do that course anymore for engineers, fortunatly.)

wanted to do a poll for my team, Which should we use for development of spring-boot?
I personally recommend VSCode, what about you guys?

[POLL]: What do you prefer making iOS apps?

- Swift
- Objective-C

Manager wants to sign me up for sponsored Apigee training and certification and i wasn't sure if it's good or bad (even now)

Me: ohh, nice
Manager: let me know asap. I'll get back to you.

*Manager comes back after 2 mins*

Manager: have you decided?
Me: uhm, yeah i haven't finished looking. I'll get back to you in 30mins

*Manager comes back after an hour*

Me: does this have a bond?
Manager: no
Me: okay, I'll get back to you tom

Poll question: is it a go or no go?

Mobile devs of devRant, what does your React Native test coverage look like?

Ours is 27% :/

Poll: Are you frontend, backend, or fullstack?

Every semester at my university I must grade my teachers with a poll of about 30 questions and 5 choices each with 1 question beign a negative one.
So I looked at the HTML and made a small JS script to fill out the poll with semi-random choices and adding the exception for that one particular question.

Little poll:
I am building a cooperative website for something that I care. I don't want anything to be more expensive than free, but I still have to pay for the servers. I don't intend to make gains with it.
What is better: a single add on the front page, not intrusive, or a Wikipedia-like campain every year to get the money to pay the servers?

I am opposed to any kind of publicity in my case: for me, internet was created and has to be keept with the spirit of sharing. I give money to wikipedia when I can, I support projects on kickstarters, etc. Adds are the oposite: they don't mean to share, but to sell, hence completely destroying the spirit of internet. But I also need to know that my site may not be visited by people with my point of view: olders wouldn't pay as easily as youngers, and my project targets a very large group of people.

Please help me making a decision, I think I will have a lot of different opinions!

@dfox feature request
poll and some sort of pinup thing.
every second day people rant abt os or editor etc and voting gets lost , u know what I mean.

i just want my get my shit done and develop quite simple apps like a customer satisfaction poll that should run on android or any other os. should i go for python with kivy (which would be challeging) or for electron as i am somewhat experienced with webdev? i am so undecided...

Embedded database is so lack of choice. SQLite, might be best, if you want stability / ACIDity.

Again, SQL means normalize everything, if I've ever want to index it...

Then, ON DELETE CASCADE? TRIGGER? Also, MANY-to-MANY kills.

Debugging Layer 8 problems

How many of you guys have watched the documentary/movie RevolutionOS?

SIDE PROJECT POLL

Holidays are coming and I have a little time to spend on side projects that I left behind. The problem is that I have not enough time for all of them and I really can't choose one.

So here is a list of them, one for each comment, the one that gets more ++ is the one I'll be focusing on after the 26th.

Please feel free to ask anything and give suggestion if you think it may help :)

Note, in square brackets there is the current state of the project (planning -> pre-alpha -> alpha -> beta) and its age

I've seen a lot of web developers in devrant (including myself) and I'm interested in other peoples work...so, can you answer this quick poll?

- What language(s) do you use for work?
- What language(s) do you know?
- What languages would you like to try and why?
- Where are you from?

Thanks ranters <3

this.rantType != RantType.RANT;

Hey, i do not want to spam DevRant with non dev stuff, but i really want to ask this you, i personally cant only code all time, im coding full time and a lot in my free time, but i just cant only code.
So i found another thing that i fell in love with, i fell in love with animal photography!!
I want to ask you, yes you reading this: do you need something else than coding or not? and if you do, what? let me know with a simple comment!

Within your area of specialty / position, where would you place your skills on a scale of 1 to 10? 1 is very new / not skilled, 10 is 'this is what I do and everybody knows I'm one of the best at it'.

Interested in seeing how we rate ourselves when compared to the rest of the industry.

Oh china, you always know how to snap me out of long stints of mundane and/or annoying, chore-esq work.
//...and letting me excuse a 10min, otherwise purely wrong procrastination down a current political rabbit hole

I gotta say, at least in china they are bold enough to put their image and identity on whatever they make... but in that 'im selling pseudo-sex, not because im sexy--just the opposite, so you know I relate' way.

Side note: i got an automated spam call survey yesterday*... it ot got to the 1st (of claimed 3) question.. which had a surprising amount of actual reiterations before looping... it was determined to get opinions(and totally incept the lemmings, soccer moms and politically ignorant into their stance, plus intense rage/disgust/dreams of standing on a soap box and fighting about this new issue they were totally unaware of.)... about this actively serving, politician's demand that china sell tiktok or totally stop allowing any operations/use on american soil... because of the heavily implied heinous nature of controlling and twisting society via media to it's explicitly declared communism... even directly called china, as a whole, communists, with impressive dramatics (and i coached public speaking hs and college kids then over a decade of business consulting, typically involving coaching vocals and implicit vocab)

I actually listened to it because it's what a typical subject, brought out of the koolaid fog, would view as ridiculously ironic(assuming they knew the actual, and therefore inherently ironic, def if irony... most dont. It's disturbing)... but it you have decent common sense, and dont emotionally view your entirety as wrong/broken/needing to be fixed in a cult-like manner, it's the oposite of irony. History of/and politics pull this crap all the time. It still works.

It reminds me of how my moniker, awesomeest, came about. In 3rd grade i realised that even adults, knowing they were chatting with an 8yr old, even if they knew/used the correct spelling of a, less common, term... if i misspelled it as if i thought it was right, theyd actually change their spelling to match (in perpetuity) albeit my vocab was easily high school level by then...likely at least in part to my flawless(aka blind/ignorant) demeanor of confidence that whatever i said/thought was totally correct, as a matter of fact. Not like the insecure ppl trying to prove something

I used to find it so comical... now it's just sad.

This bs automated political spam/manipulation is the modern version of i remember of kids farting in the late 90s... the culprit quickly accusing someone else of their offense, but even extra immature kids 25+ yrs ago figured that out... and even made the retort a catchy rhyme..."the one who smelt it, dealt it"

*i basically programmed in a counter attack/something akin to immature passive aggressive ' who"s really the one wasting the other's time and resources now?!? Ha!' ...odd numbers automatically go into a sort of echo chamber instead of ringing, with a manual escape to actually ringing/calling prompt built in.

I can listen in at any time without it having any effecf/sound too.

I'm curious if anyone participates in these minor acts of terrorism to complete an unrequested, intrusive, and human-less format of a proclaimed opinion poll? And if you do, are you honest? Why do you do it?

Annoyance at spam aside... the real victim I mentally mourn, and view it's method of demise akin to a cardinal sin (assuming religion...blah blah)... is the data! I <3 data... good, unobscured, not contrived, simple, pure, raw data... killed before its birth :'(

Poll: Favorite terminal emulator for Windows

Nvidea GTX 980 or 1060??

Not a rant, just wondering.
What's your favorite editor (not IDE) out there?

- Atom
- Sublime Text
- Visual Studio Code
- Notepad++
...
- nano
- Other (name it)

I'm trying Atom Editor, I've been a fan of Sublime Text for a couple of years. Tried VS Code, not a chance. Any suggestions?

Hey folks
Do u prefer Mac or Linux laptop for programming?! Why...?!

How cool would deviant be with tech polls?

Poll: What OS do you use for development? If your os isn't in the comments add it, if it is ++ the comment mentioning it..

Let's have a poll.
Which theme do you prefer in a code editor/IDE?

1. White/Light colors.
2.Black/Dark colors.

There will be a "great place to work" poll at my job... I wonder if I can be honest in it.

Quick, informal poll:

How many of us ride motorcycles?

I saw another, somewhat related, post and it piqued my interest.

Why do companies waste serious cash in office parties? I'm talking about those hundred-thousand-dollar extravaganzas that major tech companies seem to be addicted to.

Poll after poll finds that most employees would rather have the cash, so "kissing the collective asses of tech staff so that they won't leave" is not an explanation that holds up.

The "Roman Triumph" explanation also does not make any sense. If rich assholes want to flex their immeasurable riches, why would they invite mere mortals that do not put a lot of effort in being famous or pretty? Couldn't they invite the entire Victoria's Secret catalogue of models and the NE Patriots? Surely it would make for much more impressive photos of decadence.

The "Michael Scott" explanation also falls short. Companies spend serious cash on consultants and professional party planners, that are sure to know a lot of people. Money can and often does buy personality, so no rich asshole is ever a party dud.

Why else do they force most of their own staff into what they perceive as a "do not relax or you may get fired" loud and poorly lit meeting that takes hours to dress up for? What am I missing?

Poll

Do you type "" then write the contents inside or " and then contents then "?

[POLL] How do you develop stuff?
1 - just write code. It doesn't need to be organized, it just need to work how you thought it would, and THEN you start organizing things, like editing/creating new files, letting things DRY, optimizing the sutff you did earlier;
OR
2 - you surgically write code, making sure you keep everything is organized from the beginning. Basically you only write when you are sure.

Or maybe it's a blend between the two or something.

I'm asking because I do like the #1 and I feel uncomfortable when people see my code when it's under development. It's a mess, there are tons of comments everywhere and a bunch of repetition. But, when I find the right stuff, I start writing modules to make my code work better, remove unnecessary things, add documentation, and so on.

My development process is not the best of the best, but I get things done with it.

Okay so this has been bugging me. I know object oriented is important and helpful and good over all, but how much do people in the field with jobs use it. And this applies to any language I'm just curious.

Quick poll:

Lindo, Digital Ocean or Vultr?

I'm heavily tempted to switch from DO after new plans by competitors.

ok you go to your fancy tiled cabinet to do some serious shit. how you pleasure yourself while doing it?
1. devrant algo
2. devrant recent
3. devrant wk
... something else?

Ok, I'm curious to know, who is the person who has been in devrant the longest?

Comment the date that you joined if it is earlier than the last person who commented.

Rate your company / co-workers, how intersting the projects are! (1 to 10), and write down how long have you been working for them.

I'm really curious to see how satisfied people are with the social part of the company they work with.

Informal python poll:

Do you put your __init__ functions at the top or bottom of your classes?

AKA:

class myClass:
def mymethod(self, arg):
pass
def __init__(self):
pass

or...

class myClass:
def __init__(self):
pass
def mymethod(self, arg):
pass

React or Svelte or WebAssembly?

Would it be possible to use (S)FTP protocol in conjunction with push technology rather than pull? Perhaps websockets since both use TCP?

Say, something like an external server periodically sending my server files and when a new file arrives, I will get a notification. This instead of constantly polling my directory to check if there are files in it.

I think I can see this done with an Angular page that gives me a notification when a new file arrives on my FTP.

I think it might turn into an interesting little hobby project..

Would you rather make websites on your own or in teams?

Poll: are recruiters worth the effort? Have you gotten hired with the help of a recruiter?

Poll: if you had an iPhone 7s, would you seriously consider buying the iPhone xs max?

Best free softwares don't work for greater good.

They work for politics and benefits.

And even if you pay, it might not help. The world is full of scammers.

Rails views are not meant to have a ton of logic, local variables and 3 or 4 levels of if/else nesting. That's what presenters, view models and assorted other patterns are for. Or helpers, if you really have to.

Yes, this codebase is so packed with legacy it still runs Rails 2.3, and there's no plans to upgrade it, but that's no excuse to keep writing code like it's 2008. MVC does not mean all code must fit in a model, a view or a controller, ffs.

@oortCloud here is your poll - all proceeds go me (see comments)

To the Backend Ninjas out here.
Ive written rest APIs before but know I'm asking myself how I would implement user messaging for my app.?

Use Rest and poll the server?

Use websockets and keep the connection to the server?

Or is there something that I don't know?

Man I'm getting old Everyday there are thousands of new things....

I'm FRICKIN' TIRED of all the 'devs forever alone' memes! I mean I have a girlfriend and reading rants here I've come across various people in relationships.....then why still all the jokes and hate? I know it can be tough dating a dev but still it's not impossible! Let's start a poll here.....how many of you claim to be 'not single'?

I'm surprised by how complex simple things could become. Alt+<key> in vim didn't work, so I copied a script from stackoverflow that makes vim poll the esc key every 50ms, if it is pressed together with another key in this period it is interpreted as Alt. My terminal sends esc+<key> instead of Alt+<key> so it works perfectly.

!rant

Just did some really satisfying refactoring. Much happier with my work now. Its a little cli app to poll M-bus devices and write the data to file if the user wants. Can scan the whole range, search for specific devices and VIFE codes, parse an input file for lots of the previous data and one or two other things.

How's everyone's else's weekend?

It's poll time!

Git or SVN?

Can i get some stats? Currently running windhoos, definitely gonna swap to linux but still not sure what distro, my server runs debian 8 and console wise its quite neat. Whats your favorite distro and why?

Poll: or select()?

Yo fellow devrant devs!

Are here any PLC devs present?

After 4 years of internal struggle, short side leaps and a big amount of feeling restricted and beeing tired of it, I decided to totally switch from windows to linux. No dual boot (which ended about 20times in "oh, i didnt start linux for 2 weeks.."), no "i can have Linux on VM". Just linux and me, hopefully a neverending love story.

Thats the theory.

Problem 1: is it somehow possible to use Siemens TIA portal with Linux in a proper way?
Problem 2: is there any IDE which is at least nearly as comfortable for c# coding as visual studio?

Hey, a webapp with the ability to customize your profile's color scheme, Yay or Nay?

POLL:
What kind of office do u prefer working at?
1. Big open space (with tables and no separations)
2. Open space with cubicles
3. Medium room (3-5 ppl)

And did ur preference change due to covid?

When I normalize a database, it always feels like I cannot predict Cascading, leaving broken relationships and trash queries.

ORM feels like, I can do better than that, with more predictability (like naming, table creation, and stuff).

The only pro, is hopes for inter-dialects interop (SQLite-Postgres-MySQL-MariaDB).

OK, I also want SQLite-MongoDB interop, because of the cheap price; but this is difficult.

What OS does everyone use, and what kind of dev do you use it for?

I'm using Linux Mint and I do back end and dev ops.

What would be the best way to basically make a "visual poll" that takes clicks from users and calculates a "final score" for a website.

I've never really done something like this before...